Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


§ ita § - Aug 21, 2013 10:06:17 am PDT #9955 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

LTY was discussed in Natter. It's why I haven't made a move to watch R&I yet.

I think that TK is much better this year than before--he was remarkably immature before. Now he's sometimes immature, but I don't DO NOT NOT NOT understand much about relationship forgiveness.

I thought it was sad that they seemed to be replacing Blucas with Stamos, and then switching out the whole team for the V3 supporting staff, but I don't see how Stamos is going to be here next season, so maybe that's their model now.

I also didn't think of it as a procedural.


Jesse - Aug 22, 2013 1:49:30 pm PDT #9956 of 11831
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

No, it's clearly Cable Drama.


sj - Aug 22, 2013 2:32:37 pm PDT #9957 of 11831
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Sorry, my fault. I don't know what I was thinking.


Typo Boy - Aug 22, 2013 8:26:17 pm PDT #9958 of 11831
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Most recent Perception:

Either they just pissed all over Kate's character as portrayed up to now OR Daniel was sitting alone in his home hallucinating this whole episode. I'm not sure which I like less. I hope next episode has a third explanation to surprise me with.


Typo Boy - Aug 22, 2013 9:42:06 pm PDT #9959 of 11831
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Er to be clear, I'm thinking specifically of the scene in the bar. Unredeemable Creep has just handed her, and her ex their heads in a legal battle. She follows him to a bar, ruins his date, warns him she is going to "bring him down" and does not expect to hear from his lawyers? The detective who is carefully polite or rude to suspects and witnesses to elicit the reactions she wants suddenly loses all control? Once she is suspended, using her time off to get something on the guy I can believe. And the murder may well have circumstances. But the bar confrontation. Asolutely nothing in previous episodes prepares us for her to act like that.


erikaj - Aug 23, 2013 7:18:42 am PDT #9960 of 11831
Always Anti-fascist!

I know. I don't really like the way they write her all the time.


§ ita § - Aug 24, 2013 6:18:43 am PDT #9961 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I figure she went off the rails because of the rape of the war hero. TV makes us believe that all worthwhile detectives have that threshold where things become personal, and they break the rules they normally observe. For some its kids, for women it's often sexual violence...

I have to admit the implied violence on R&I didn't ping me much. Did I miss a scene of a dog in distress? I watched distractedly because of Lee Thompson Young--very hard time looking at any of his scenes, and with a topic as gruesome and personal as this, couldn't help but wonder what it's like if you're considering violence against yourself what having a day job tossing terms and scenes like these around feels like. And I shed a tear at the "in loving memory". It's a damned shame (and not right) that the most this show can ever affect me is through real life, and tragedy besides.


EpicTangent - Aug 24, 2013 9:05:55 pm PDT #9962 of 11831
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

I figure she went off the rails because of the rape of the war hero. TV makes us believe that all worthwhile detectives have that threshold where things become personal, and they break the rules they normally observe. For some its kids, for women it's often sexual violence...

I think between this and the veiled references to whatever happened in DC are supposed to make us think that it was just this case making her snap.

On R&I, they said that the 1st sign one character was a serial killer was that he strangled a puppy when he was 5. Then they were handling one of Corsack's puppies while she was monologuing at him when he was tied up.

It was very hard to watch Frost scenes, knowing.


§ ita § - Aug 25, 2013 6:19:40 am PDT #9963 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Then they were handling one of Corsack's puppies while she was monologuing at him when he was tied up.

I know. I heard and saw that. But no one threatened a dog, no one was five years old and needed to kill a dog to become desensitised to murder--I just thought they were showing you how cute dogs were (since you totally forget) and how horrible it was for a five year old to have done that. Inasmuch as serial killing made sense (and they were kinda playing that angle) it made no sense to kill any dog in that episode. So I didn't think any dogs were in jeopardy.


Morgana - Aug 25, 2013 8:10:24 pm PDT #9964 of 11831
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

And there was Rizzoli's nightmare with what's-his-name and her dog being threatened in it. And I could have sworn there was a third scene with dogs in it, but I'm not going to rewatch.