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Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


sj - Oct 30, 2012 6:52:35 am PDT #9361 of 11831
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

There was a heck of a tell at the end of the last episode. Holmes had commented that she put her hair back, which she only did when there was a man around she found attractive, because she thinks she looks best that way. At the very end of the episode, she put her hair back, and Holmes kind of blinked at it.

I don't want her to be attracted to him, just fascinated in a non-sexual way.


P.M. Marc - Oct 30, 2012 7:22:27 am PDT #9362 of 11831
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I'm enjoying it, I just think it's Holmes and Watson in name only.


Typo Boy - Oct 30, 2012 8:42:38 am PDT #9363 of 11831
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I think of it as playing off Holmes and Watson rather than a version of Holmes and Watson. Where Sherlock really does try be a version (and I don't think succeeds) I don't think Elementary is trying. I think the writers have read the stories, because the dialog contains extensive quotes from the stories. But they are deliberately telling a different story with different character that kind of has echos of Doyle canon. I don't know quite how to put. Think how behind Supernatural there is an echo of an alternate universe where the boys are not heroes but deluded serial killers. Not subtext - just another story than the one told that lives on the other side of the mirror. Good story telling often has that - another story different from and even opposed to the one than the tale being told. Such stories on the other side of the mirror are not subtext, yet glimpses of them show through. Elementary is not in any way the story of the Doyle canon; yet glimpses of that canon show through from the other side of the mirror.


askye - Oct 31, 2012 3:55:16 pm PDT #9364 of 11831
Thrive to spite them

I watched the first episode of Elementary but it didn't really grab my attention.

But it seems kind of like one of the "updated" versions of Miss Marple that I was watching on Netflix where Miss Marple acted nothing at all like the way Agatha Christie wrote her and they changed one story so there was an illicit lesbian relationship and the 2 women were the killers.

However, I am liking this season of Castle and how the show is handling Beckett and Castle's relationship. The bigger issues like how to make it look like they are still single, to the handshake instead of a hug. And the small little comments like last night when Beckett was handcuffing Castle and he comments about how much more fun it was the night before.

Also like how everyone is finding out but protecting them. I was a little worried Esposito would be mad at Ryan for keeping the secret but glad he wasn't.

Plus I liked the whole Triple X killer comes back episode and the ending.


Jesse - Oct 31, 2012 4:59:28 pm PDT #9365 of 11831
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

OMG, the ad at the end of Criminal Minds was for Walgreens saying to go get advice from a pharmacist "before you do anything crazy."


Vortex - Oct 31, 2012 7:27:25 pm PDT #9366 of 11831
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Missed Castle this week because of the storm. Hawaii 5-0 got pushed back a week, tho.


aurelia - Oct 31, 2012 7:42:34 pm PDT #9367 of 11831
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Castle is on Hulu. It's an intense one.


Frankenbuddha - Nov 01, 2012 7:56:45 am PDT #9368 of 11831
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Yeah, Castle was good, especially for a serious Castle episode. Though I don't remember the villain's original appearance on the show at all.


sj - Nov 01, 2012 8:11:43 am PDT #9369 of 11831
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Yeah, Castle was good, especially for a serious Castle episode. Though I don't remember the villain's original appearance on the show at all.

I have a vague memory of it, but I couldn't make TCG remember it at all either.


askye - Nov 01, 2012 8:34:58 am PDT #9370 of 11831
Thrive to spite them

I remember this because Will and I watched the episode recently (we're working our way through Castle).

This is the third episode to deal with the 3XK (Triple X killer). The first episode was in season 3 and they run across the case and realize it's the same as a pattern from 4 years ago. The team works to solve the crime but 3XK does things like use a double to screw with time lines. He actually has everyone believing that he's the former cellmate of 3XK and they have him in a safe house.

Castle and Ryan go to the safe house and it's there that Castle figures out this guy Jerry is really the 3XK. Except he blurts it out and Jerry gets the drop on them and ties them up -- at some point Martha calls and Jerry gives the phone to Castle who says he's fine blah blah and ends the call with "I love you Mom". (or just I love you).

3XK does the evil villain thing and is either about to kill them when Beckett and the police swarm in or has left them.

Martha knew something was "terrible wrong" when Castle said I love you so she called Becket who sent everyone to the safe house.

Then in a later episode in season 4 a woman is killed with Ryan's gun. They spend a lot of time trying to figure out how the killer got his gun from Jerry and eventually they get a lead from the guy who had the gun that the guy who sold it to them, Jerry was going off to some state. But Castle doesn't believe it because it's too easy.

That episode is the one where the girl is the tutor and it turns out she's secretly involved with the guy she's tutoring - one of the sons of a Yakuza boss. The older brother killed the girl, but the love interest brother went into witness protection after offering to give evidence against his family.