You're a bloody puppet! You're a wee little puppet man!

Spike ,'Smile Time'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


§ ita § - Jun 03, 2012 2:07:06 pm PDT #8999 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Der. That makes so much more sense. I thought NY had been cancelled, not Miami.

THERE IS A GOD.

(that let it run ten seasons, but still)


le nubian - Jun 03, 2012 2:14:51 pm PDT #9000 of 11831
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

CSI NY was on the edge of cancellation last year, but it pulled through this year. I have no fucking idea why. Mac's romantic interests are just as bad and the plots/cases are WORSE.

And now, every season they are giving it a "season finale" - just in case.


WindSparrow - Jun 17, 2012 5:13:24 pm PDT #9001 of 11831
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Anyone here interested in a detailed review/discussion of The Mentalist's finale "The Crimson Hat" may wish to peruse this [link] Reviewbrain let me put my oar in, so my comments are interspersed with hers. She also addresses a number of questions other fans asked her via Twitter.


le nubian - Jun 17, 2012 5:56:08 pm PDT #9002 of 11831
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

"The Killing" - the awfulness of the finale did not disappoint. Good grief.


-t - Jun 17, 2012 5:59:58 pm PDT #9003 of 11831
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Yeah, I hung in there to the bitter end. What a waste of my time.


le nubian - Jun 17, 2012 6:01:56 pm PDT #9004 of 11831
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

damn. I should not have come back this season and just watched the finale.


-t - Jun 17, 2012 6:10:30 pm PDT #9005 of 11831
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

You watched the original, right? Out of curiosity, how did the guilty parties line up?


Tom Scola - Jun 17, 2012 6:11:43 pm PDT #9006 of 11831
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Is the original worth seeking out?


Cass - Jun 17, 2012 6:30:44 pm PDT #9007 of 11831
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I want to watch the orig Killing but the plot twists at the end of every single ep on the remake drove me wacky because I did a lot of eps in a row. I was recommending it to my brother today with that caveat. Luckily he never listens to me about media so it won't matter.


le nubian - Jun 17, 2012 7:50:35 pm PDT #9008 of 11831
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

So, yes I did watch the original.

If it makes any sense, I found the original really interesting and fascinating because it was Danish. Like the storytelling style is so different from English, Canadian, or US, some of the fascination with the original is that (in retrospect).

The lead actress in the original is really great. Just a solid actress with muted acting style that I liked.

It is 20 episodes I think, so the red herrings that are in the U.S. series are ever present in the original. It got really bad because I was yelling at the screen at one point: WTF, there have to be more than 2 cops who can investigate this murder!

now for the spoilers:

The original perp is not the perp in the U.S. In fact, the way Rosie was murdered in the U.S. was not at all the way she was murdered in the original. The character who died, the father's best friend is the perp in the original. And the final scenes in the mini-series were wild in how the perp was identified and then killed by "Rosie's" father. It was established that he had a lot of rage issues that couldn't be controlled, so the friend confessed to him in a situation where he knew he would be killed by the father's bare hands. And that's exactly what happened. While there were a lot of red herrings, the series really did a nice job laying the groundwork for the perp and how the final scenes were going to go down.

What I liked about the original is how much disdain the writers seemed to have for civic institutions. Everyone was corrupt: politicians, police. And their corruption was present throughout the investigation in ways large and small. The end of the mini-series is so dark tonally. Almost without a lot of hope.

I am in the middle of the second season, but I haven't been able to catch a minute to watch it with my full attention. The second is better than the first. Far fewer red herrings.