Zoe: First rule of battle, little one. Don't ever let 'em know where you are. Mal: Whoo-hoo! I'm right here! I'm right here! You want some of me? Yeah, you do! Come on! Come on! Aaah! Whoo-hoo! Zoe: Of course, there are other schools of thought...

'The Message'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


Juliebird - May 21, 2012 4:12:00 pm PDT #8949 of 11831
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I think it's one thing to randomly survive such a fall with minimal injuries, but to plan to deliberately survive a fall is another matter.

But I'm sure Sherlock will have various and sundry facts to astound us with as to why he was assured of his survival, and survival in the best of terms, not just alive as a vegetable or a parapalegic or laid up for a year with every bone in his body broken.


§ ita § - May 21, 2012 4:19:25 pm PDT #8950 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If nothing else, it made for some immediately emotional fanart narratives.


DebetEsse - May 21, 2012 4:19:41 pm PDT #8951 of 11831
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I assume he landed on something that neither John nor the assassin could see because the view was blocked.


quester - May 21, 2012 4:36:58 pm PDT #8952 of 11831
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

OMGWTF has Sela Ward done to herself? I didn't even recognize her on House!


Jesse - May 21, 2012 4:37:48 pm PDT #8953 of 11831
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I feel like in the tradition, it's fine for it to be an unsurvivable fall, because that's how Conan Doyle wrote "The Final Problem," with Holmes dying on the Reichenbach Falls for real, and then took it back.


quester - May 21, 2012 4:38:32 pm PDT #8954 of 11831
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Did Ward's character and Cameron die on House?


Juliebird - May 21, 2012 4:58:21 pm PDT #8955 of 11831
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I have to say, I prefer the movie version of the Reichenbach Falls, because it's pure human protective instinctive emotion, a split-second decision (and that the surviving was reliant on a bit of five-fingered discounting of a random doohicky), as opposed to this silly trickery and manipulation that seems too complicated and dependent on too many variables. And cold and calculated. Until I see the mechanics, I can't believe the emotions Sherlock was showing in that final showdown. The whole thing stunk of meta manipulating to make certain things work out, and not character-driven decisions. (Yeah, yeah, I know there was Sherlock's earlier scene with Molly setting up some sort of subterfuge, but, that seems to rely too much on Sherlock being omniscient. I guess, in the end, I'm not as engaged by clever craftiness and chess-thinking that almost leaves no room for gut and heart. Although I'm sure everything I just said is fighting words for someone).


Hil R. - May 21, 2012 5:02:08 pm PDT #8956 of 11831
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Did Ward's character and Cameron die on House?

Nope. Stacy married the other guy and lived happily ever after, and I think Cameron just left.


Tom Scola - May 21, 2012 5:03:28 pm PDT #8957 of 11831
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

The whole thing stunk of meta manipulating to make certain things work out, and not character-driven decisions.

I kind of feel that way about the whole series.


DCJensen - May 22, 2012 6:22:08 am PDT #8958 of 11831
All is well that ends in pizza.

A truck was blocking John's view, a truck that conveniently pulled away and John ran toward the gathering crowd. Also John was stalled by the "accidental" collision with the bicyclist.

I suspect Sherlock fell into the truck, and the prepared body was bounced out to the sidewalk.