Oh, I wish those council guys would let me have an hour alone in the room with her, if I was larger and had grenades.

Willow ,'Storyteller'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


JenP - Sep 20, 2011 4:42:44 pm PDT #8103 of 11831

OK, let me just get this out of my system, because I have huge love for Castle, the show and character. I was so bugged when he was talking to his mom about how he could steer her away from the investigation. Like, he could trick her easily into doing what he wanted without her even realizing it. History doesn't support that, I don't think. She's obviously vulnerable right now, so I get why he was able to do it within the framework of the show, but it kind of irritated me when he sounded so sure of his power to compel her. I didn't like how it was written.

It was the aspect of tricking her into it, and how sure he was that he could control the outcome, that I didn't like. He definitely has talked her into things before, but she's been well aware. I wish it had been more, I hate to deceive her, but I feel like I have to for her own good. Which isn't all THAT much better but would've felt right...er. Over analzing? I'm not usually like this.


le nubian - Sep 20, 2011 7:14:07 pm PDT #8104 of 11831
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I thought the whole ep on the whole was written VERY poorly. Just about the only thing I liked in the ep was the interaction between Esposito & Ryan (which lasted maybe 30 seconds). You brought up a problem, but it is not even close to being the only issue I had.

I thought this was a disappointing premiere. I hope next week is better.


Connie Neil - Sep 20, 2011 7:21:46 pm PDT #8105 of 11831
brillig

I haven't seen the finale from last season, and I didn't watch last night, because I knew there's be more unCastle-like angst. It's beginning to sound like I should just wait for next week.

Yes, I do want Castle to be fluff, and I'm not ashamed.


JenP - Sep 20, 2011 7:40:03 pm PDT #8106 of 11831

You brought up a problem, but it is not even close to being the only issue I had.

So, not over analyzing, then? Good!

The new captain, though? Oh, I feel ya', McPalmer. She was right about pretty much everything. I was so pissed at Beckett for walking in with such an attitude! And why the hell shouldn't she have to requalify?? Ladies and gents, she's setting boundaries. I will cut Beckett slack in that she is not over the shooting yet.

I hope it is much more regular Castle next week, too.


aurelia - Sep 20, 2011 8:09:15 pm PDT #8107 of 11831
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

it kind of irritated me when he sounded so sure of his power to compel her

I think he was trying to convince himself that he could keep her safe.

This episode felt really rushed to me. It set up the idea that the boundary between them is no longer other people, but that they aren't being honest with each other. It was a lot to absorb though, and not done with the depth or finesse of Sucker Punch/Knockdown/Knockout. I hope losing that writer doesn't cause the show to suffer too much.


JenP - Sep 20, 2011 8:38:27 pm PDT #8108 of 11831

I didn't know they'd lost a writer. Hmm. Interesting, because it was definitely the writing, not the performance, that caused me to feel a little put out during that scene.


aurelia - Sep 20, 2011 8:47:25 pm PDT #8109 of 11831
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Will Beall wrote those episodes. I think he's off working on a movie now.


le nubian - Sep 21, 2011 9:07:39 am PDT #8110 of 11831
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I saw NCIS last night. When someone here gets a chance, could you please explain WTF?


sumi - Sep 21, 2011 9:40:41 am PDT #8111 of 11831
Art Crawl!!!

Not sure I understood NCIS.

And I have to say, I don't know why Castle thinks that Beckett won't ever find out about that guy with the files and that Castle knows about the guy with the files.


§ ita § - Sep 21, 2011 10:02:40 am PDT #8112 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I can't explain NCIS either. I assume it's their one episode in the season where Tony acts like an adult. As for the rest of it, I got nothing.