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This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]
Just caught up with last nights Closer. If we still do Persians Brenda M. And Morgana totally get umpteen million Persians for calling where this was going:
Complete prescience.
Read down a few post from the link for full Brenda and Morgana interaction on this.
And because I wanted to leave the props in their own post:
Anyone but me think the leak will end up being a bug, not a person.? Placed by the Lawyer on one of his many visits to taunt Brenda. And that is also how the Federal lawsuit goes away - having committed a felony gives them a lever against the lawyer.
Further guess: The series ends with both the Lawyer and Brenda losing their career. Either jail for the lawyer and firing for Brenda,or they make a deal where she gives up law enforcement and he gives up law. If he did bug the station I kind of like the symmetry where they both lose their careers for letting the end justify the means once too often.
But I like the deal better of my two guesses cause of Brenda never faces murder charges I'd hate the lawyer to face joil for planting a bug. Ending the series with a deal would be - satisfying - somehow.
I read somewhere that the leak is Pope, because he's trying to discredit Brenda so that she won't be considered for the chief post.
It's bothering me that they never resolved why the guy was going to kill Brenda. It sounded to me that killing her was premeditated. He had to know that he wouldn't get out of there alive, and he didn't seem happy about killing her in the first place, he was crying.
Also, they have got to cast better. when I saw the maitre'd at the first questioning, I knew that he had to be involved somehow, since I recognized him. Get some unknowns people, it telegraphs a character's importance to the story when you cast someone recognizable. Or is it just that I happen to notice these things?
That particular non-unknown is pretty much always shady too. I've only seem him sympathetic once. And he was mega-douchey on CSI:Miami.
No, you're totally right, Vortex. I knew the restaurant guy had to be up to something because I recognized the actor.
Well, Raider (Rayder?) and Fritz have both been trying to get Brenda to not trust Pope.
I'm annoyed that they ended this half of the season without at least giving us a clue to who the leak might be.
I read somewhere that the leak is Pope, because he's trying to discredit Brenda so that she won't be considered for the chief post.
This makes the most sense right now or the bugged office theory. I just can't imagine one of Brenda's actual team betraying her. Although I guess it could be Commander Taylor, he has always been jealous of Brenda.
It's bothering me that they never resolved why the guy was going to kill Brenda. It sounded to me that killing her was premeditated. He had to know that he wouldn't get out of there alive, and he didn't seem happy about killing her in the first place, he was crying.
I'm hoping that they pick this up again for the winter season, because you're right, there definitely seemed to be something more going on there.
Also, they have got to cast better.
I think most procedurals could take this advice. I tend to figure out early who it is based solely on casting.
If it is not a bug then Pope or Russel are the major league weasels in the ensemble. Provenza is more like an undisciplined dog who really does not get rules, or why the family roast on the table is not for him, but I don't see him being the leak. 4th possiblity is "someone you would never suspect so the betrayal has added angst" but I hope they don't go there. I'm not betting on the bug, but I still think is a good possiblity. Especially since lawyer at one point spent a lot of time in the building when they thought he had left. "He never left the building". Planting a bug certainly seems one way he could have spent that time. It occurred to me at the time.
If leak is not a bug, Pope has a ton to lose from a lawsuit. Being willing to throw her under a bus that might otherwise hit him and being willing to set the bus in motion or add fuel to the bus engine are different things. Different incentive structures. Pope looks after Pope. Not likely to go after Brenda out of malice against his self-interest. Much more in character for Russel cause his sense of resentment has been know to get in the way of his judgement as to what his self-interest is.
If it is not a bug then Pope or Russel are the major league weasels in the ensemble.
I think you're right there. I think her people are all loyal to her. (And I can't imagine [me, let alone her!] not feeling absolutely betrayed if it were one of her people. Except maybe Flynn, he seems the least "worshipful" and the most self-interested of her squad).
I'd say Pope was more likely than Taylor. Taylor seems like he's come around a bit, at least to recognizing her value as an assett. Pope seems more self-interested all the time, plus it'd be an even more dramatic betrayal than Taylor, given their past relationship. The only thing I see against it being Pope is the fact that everyone keeps warning her not to trust him - I wonder if Pope might not be a red herring?
edited to correct major character's name. oops.
I hope that Taylor is not the leak - that would be too obvious. And, while he and Brenda have had their issues, I don't see him betraying the police department. I like the idea of Pope being the leak, but I kinda doubt it, just because Fritz and Rayder have been so suspicious. That also seems just a little too obvious.
I also agree that everyone else is too loyal. However, I can see Provenza or Flynn, for instance, blabbing to a girlfriend. However no one, so far, has talked about being in a new relationship.
I'm hoping for the bug myself as Brenda and crew would then be able to use their knowledge of its existence to play the lawyer. Having said that, I don't see how a bug could've got him the original information. It was an old case that no one would've been talking about. I think someone has to be at least the original leak, tho' technology may have been used since then.