I'm having fun reading the beginning of the TWOP thread for Criminal Minds. The early consensus was that the show was decent, but didn't stand a chance due to the timeslot (up against both Lost and Veronica Mars). On Page 2, someone gives the show 6 weeks, tops.

Six seasons later...

Kathy, that's funny.

The Garcia and Reid love there started really early. After the pilot was broadcast, almost everyone who commented had something nice to say about "3PhDBoy" and "Dr YoungGenius," and after the third ep, someone said, "Liked that they showed more of the quirky blond bespectacled computer FBI-problem solving lady. I have such a girl crush on her and she's only had 10 minutes of screen time for the entire season."

There are now some concerns at TWOP that Reid and Rossi will be shoved aside in Season 7 in favor of other team members, but I think that Reid is safe. His eps always do well both in the fandom and in the ratings.

I think that's an absurd concern, given that the team for S7 is the same one they had from S3-5 and some of the best episodes were contained within those seasons. Admittedly, how they reintegrate JJ and Emily, in particular, may take up some of the early part of the season, but still-- I'm not worried.

Why is there a sudden concern that they'd be shunted aside?

Someone was saying that they thought the showrunners would want to get their money's worth out of Hotch, in particular, due to Gibson's new contract being so pricey. I thought it was a rather flimsy argument, but you know how TWOPers like to gossipmonger. Since MGG and Montegna's contracts aren't up until next year, that person apparently thought that their characters would be put on the bottom of the pile.

Because that's totally how writers operate. "Quick! We need to get Gibson's $ per spoken word rate down to within the metrics - give him an amusing aside. No, a full soliloquy!"

Sorry to jump in in the middle of the thread. I've been watching a lot of Columbo lately & I just noticed that the murder always happens in plain sight at the beginning of the episode. We all know who done it and as soon as Columbo gets within smelling ditance (I swear that's how he knows) so does he. The fun is in how Columbo traps the muderer into incriminating himself.

I wonder if younger viewers who aren't used to this style of detective story would find Columbo less intriguing than our modern procedurals.

Oh, yeah, every episode is a battle of wits between Columbo and an often likeable villain--or at least clever and intelligent. Such wonderful characters.

Did you see the one where the villain went after Columbo's wife?

Ooh I'm not sure. I watched it a lot when I was younger but most of the epsidoes I'm seeing jumping around Netflix instant mostly randomly seem new. He talks about 'Mrs. Columbo' a lot and I have a picture of her in my head but I was actually wondering this morning if she was like Norm's wife on Cheers. Now I have to look her up and see if I am remembering the right actress.

The Dick van Dyke episode is my favorite so far.

eta: wait, what?