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Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


Barb - Sep 23, 2010 8:18:52 am PDT #6162 of 11838
“Not dead yet!”

Oh dear. Joe Mantegna just tweeted, asking if everyone was happy with the show.

And I'm with Maria—I'm all for directing the righteous anger at the shitheels who deserve it.


EpicTangent - Sep 23, 2010 8:34:28 am PDT #6163 of 11838
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

Flynn did start to raise his gun before Morgan took his first shot, so he could claim that he was either going to shoot Morgan or maybe the woman on his right.

Yeah, it was a definite suicide-by-cop.

This was how I saw it as well.

I do think there was intent to have the Garcia bitching somehow illustrate Morgan's state of mind. I just don't think it worked very well.

Yeah, it just felt out of character. Actually even more than the snapping at Garcia, when he said to Hotch, "She really needs to be more professional," or something like that - I could see him being short with someone way easier than him being backbitey and talking behind their back that way.


ehab - Sep 23, 2010 8:35:47 am PDT #6164 of 11838
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala

Actually even more than the snapping at Garcia, when he said to Hotch, "She really needs to be more professional," or something like that - I could see him being short with someone way easier than him being backbitey and talking behind their back that way.

Exactly. In fact, if they'd left it at the sniping at Garcia directly and then the apology I probably wouldn't have felt a need to comment about it.


ehab - Sep 23, 2010 8:35:48 am PDT #6165 of 11838
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala

Maria - Sep 23, 2010 8:36:12 am PDT #6166 of 11838
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

The writing was incredibly uneven. It was superficial; I understand the focus can't been on every character every show, but they usually do a much better job of integrating the team members into the story. If Joe Mantegna didn't already have his SAG card, he sure as hell wouldn't have earned it last night.


Barb - Sep 23, 2010 8:40:11 am PDT #6167 of 11838
“Not dead yet!”

Hell, they used Gubler more when he was trapped on crutches than they did last night.


Maria - Sep 23, 2010 8:47:59 am PDT #6168 of 11838
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

And Hotch didn't do much more than look Hotchly. It was the JJ/Morgan show, and it felt rushed, like we had to get as much of JJ in before she disappears.


ehab - Sep 23, 2010 8:55:02 am PDT #6169 of 11838
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala

I read some of the twitter responses to Joe and they're all positive with lot's of similar "JJ/Morgan show" and "I'm going to miss JJ" embedded in them. I suddenly remembered AJ has twitter so I let her know how marvelous I thought she was last night because she did give a wonderful performance.


EpicTangent - Sep 23, 2010 9:09:49 am PDT #6170 of 11838
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

In the midst of all that was wrong with the ep, I must say I enjoyed Ellie. All of her responses and fighting and undermining the bad guy. I always wonder whether people couldn't be doing more fighting for themselves while under the bad guy's control, so I really appreciated that - especially from a cop's daughter. My cop friend has tried to give me tips (largely about fighting dirty), so I have no problem believing a cop's kid would be a little proactive.


Barb - Sep 23, 2010 1:27:52 pm PDT #6171 of 11838
“Not dead yet!”

Can I rail some more against CBS?

CBS won the night overall, thanks to a very strong start for Criminal Minds (14.1 million viewers)

It had a higher viewership than its lead in (Survivor- 12 million viewers) and in fact, had the highest viewership of the night over all, even with the premiere of Modern Family (12.6 million viewers)

Where Modern Family won was in highest viewership in the 18-49 demographic, but still. Highest viewership overall for CM.