Lorne: Once the word spreads you beat up an innocent old man, well, the truly terrible will think twice before going toe-to-toe with our Avenging Angel. Spike: Yes. The geriatric community will be soiling their nappies when they hear you're on the case. Bravo.

'The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


quester - Aug 10, 2010 4:09:44 pm PDT #5856 of 11838
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Yes, it does. I've forsaken new episodes of several shows because of my new obsession with CM.


Kathy A - Aug 11, 2010 6:12:00 am PDT #5857 of 11838
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I've forsaken new episodes of several shows because of my new obsession with CM.

Yes, this! Luckily, most of my other shows are on cable, which means they're rerun either later that day or on the weekend, so I just time-shift. The only network shows I watch are CM on Wednesday night and occasionally NCIS on Tuesday night if I've missed it earlier in the season. Comcast has NCIS available OnDemand (I wish they would do the same with CM, though). This fall will be a bit different, since I'll be adding Hawaii 5-O and Under Covers to my network schedule, along with Castle and the others.


Kathy A - Aug 11, 2010 6:52:33 am PDT #5858 of 11838
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I watched the CM pilot last night for the first time since I got into this show, and found the characterization interesting. Hotch actually smiles and is friendly to witnesses (see him with the grandma of one of the unsubs), Gideon is (or rather, was) the unit chief--Reid calls him "boss"--Morgan wears a suit and tie (!), and there is no JJ (strange seeing them fly home with no women on the plane).

Liked seeing that they had the Morgan/Garcia phone flirtation from the very beginning, and even though they had Reid be more awkward around those outside the team ("the Reid effect" on dogs and kids was funny), he was at ease with the team itself.


§ ita § - Aug 11, 2010 6:59:01 am PDT #5859 of 11838
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Hotch is consistently friendly to witnesses--he shows extreme compassion during Ashes and Dust, if memory serves, and even to the unsub in Pleasure Is My Business. That's never been a shortcoming of his.

His increasing flatness seems to be largely to other cops and his team.


Barb - Aug 11, 2010 7:48:04 am PDT #5860 of 11838
“Not dead yet!”

His increasing flatness seems to be largely to other cops and his team.

And I think it's because of everything he's experienced, he expends the majority of his being "on" efforts for witnesses, whereas with the team, he really doesn't feel as if he has to. They don't need him to be on, they just need him to do his job. Yet it was something that Jordan pointed out during her tenure-- that a team takes on the traits of their leader and that he never smiles and to watch out for that.


Kathy A - Aug 11, 2010 7:48:25 am PDT #5861 of 11838
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

You're right--I get his stiffness around the local cops mixed up with his southern gentleman quality around witnesses. All that smiling in the pilot really threw me, though, especially since I'd just gone through all of S3 and S4 when he's Mr. Intensity (and going through a divorce).


Jesse - Aug 11, 2010 8:57:08 am PDT #5862 of 11838
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh, it's so heartbreaking, seeing Hotch in the pilot -- that's where they are picking baby names, right? He and Haley are so happy.


Kathy A - Aug 11, 2010 9:09:02 am PDT #5863 of 11838
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Not only picking out baby names, but he's putting together the crib. So sad in retrospect!


Rayne - Aug 12, 2010 3:54:54 pm PDT #5864 of 11838
"Oh no! Has falling sky liquid once again caused you the sadness?" -Starfire

Ohhhh! I now have a favorite episode of Criminal Minds! Penelope! It's the one where Garcia is shot. I adored the interaction between Garcia and Morgan, and Nicholas Brendan was awesome!


Kathy A - Aug 12, 2010 6:54:28 pm PDT #5865 of 11838
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

"Penelope" is a great ep. I love when she's talking about fading in and out of consciousness, seeing a white light, and hearing the song "Heroes," which makes her wonder, "Is David Bowie really God?" And then having that song play over the end when she finally meets Kevin face-to-face--so sweet!