Gunn: The final score can't be rigged. I don't care how many players you grease, that last shot always comes up a question mark. But here's the thing. You never know when you're taking it. It could be when you're duking it out with the Legion of Doom, or just crossing the street deciding where to have brunch. So you just treat it like it was up to you—the world in balance—'cause you never know when it is.

'Underneath'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


Barb - Apr 20, 2010 9:42:31 am PDT #5356 of 11834
“Not dead yet!”

DED from the cute.

This.

And Ryan is a COMPLETE WOOBIE.


beekaytee - Apr 20, 2010 11:38:10 am PDT #5357 of 11834
Compassionately intolerant

I loved that I got to see Michael Ironsides, who may be longer in the tooth but is still sexay...and Scott Cohen on my screen at the same time.

Casting like that reminds me of when radio stations do 'deep cuts', where they go back and showcase the good stuff we may have overlooked.

I'm glad to see those guys working.


Juliebird - Apr 20, 2010 2:14:00 pm PDT #5358 of 11834
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I'm watching the Bones pilot. When did Zach lose his personality? I don't remember this level of snarkiness in the few later eps I've seen.

Or am I being insensitive to RL issues?


aurelia - Apr 20, 2010 2:52:51 pm PDT #5359 of 11834
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

The writing of the characters on Bones has been way inconsistent. Some actors can probably compensate and/or argue their way to a more consistent character. I suspect he was not in a place mentally to be able to do that. I don't know what Deschanel's excuse is.


§ ita § - Apr 20, 2010 3:05:46 pm PDT #5360 of 11834
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Some actors can probably compensate and/or argue their way to a more consistent character.

Has anyone on this show done it? Neither Bones nor Booth (especially Bones) is particularly consistent. They were finding their footing, and I think they decided to go with more stereotyping for most of their geeks. Only Hodgins gets to be socially ept.


aurelia - Apr 20, 2010 3:10:50 pm PDT #5361 of 11834
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

TJ Thyne and Tamara Taylor are the only ones on that show that I'd give much credit to.

I give them all a pass for the first season, but once they've played a character that long they really should take some ownership if there are things in the writing that they question.


Kathy A - Apr 20, 2010 5:09:28 pm PDT #5362 of 11834
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

once they've played a character that long they really should take some ownership if there are things in the writing that they question

Which is the problem I have with how NCIS writes most of its characters, especially DiNozzo. That ep when he posed as a john and fumbled it completely was waaaay off considering his established backstory as a competent and experienced former cop and go-to undercover guy.


Vortex - Apr 20, 2010 5:16:03 pm PDT #5363 of 11834
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

OH MY JESUS, Raylan shirtless in low slung jeans with no underwear. Lord, I love the iliac crest.


quester - Apr 20, 2010 5:20:55 pm PDT #5364 of 11834
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I love the dialogue! "I have the right to think you're creepy."


§ ita § - Apr 20, 2010 5:45:56 pm PDT #5365 of 11834
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

they really should take some ownership if there are things in the writing that they question

They might not work in an environment where that's possible, assuming they're the sorts of actors that really grok their characters. Not all do. And not all writers will let the actors push back.

NBC re-aired the For The Defense episode of L&O this week. Ah, the proper birth of the Mike/Connie ship. The reaction shots from both of them were absolutely marvellous. And there's a great bit where Wahl is spouting off some nonsense in the hallway and Cutter is standing there staring up at him in disbelief and they play off Roache's shortness in ways they usually camouflage, but works tremendously.

I love that episode to pieces.