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Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


SailAweigh - Mar 31, 2010 7:12:24 am PDT #5223 of 11834
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

There's less collateral damage if he gets away. At least that's what I told myself.

Seriously, I don't watch Castle for the procedural parts (even though that's why it's in this thread), I watch if for the relationships between all the characters. This show is just FUN.


erikaj - Mar 31, 2010 7:20:43 am PDT #5224 of 11834
Always Anti-fascist!

It's a good thing...the procedural...what's the writer term? blows.Sometimes it interferes with my enjoyment...fuckin' Simon, man. Ruins everything with his*accuracy* blah blah, facts, blah blah, manufacturing crisis, blah blah unchecked capitalism...what an asshole. Maybe even fake-married people sound alike after a while.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Mar 31, 2010 8:53:35 am PDT #5225 of 11834
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

I mostly half-watch Castle for just that reason. I pay attention when there's fun stuff on screen. I read blogs whenever there's a scene in the interview room.


Toddson - Mar 31, 2010 9:23:58 am PDT #5226 of 11834
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

The interview room scenes have their moments - it's a good opportunity for Beckett to slap Castle down if he needs it.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 31, 2010 9:43:41 am PDT #5227 of 11834
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

The interview room scenes have their moments - it's a good opportunity for Beckett to slap Castle down if he needs it.

Also good if Ryan and/or Esposito are involved.


§ ita § - Mar 31, 2010 10:10:36 am PDT #5228 of 11834
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Beckett's great in the room. I don't think that's where the show displays a procedural weakness at all.


Jesse - Mar 31, 2010 10:30:30 am PDT #5229 of 11834
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

That was totally not the death I was expecting from L&O:CI. I was expecting Goren to buy it.

It's not too late. This is going to be the end of D'Onofrio on the show, right? That is what I'm gathering from the ads.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Mar 31, 2010 10:34:55 am PDT #5230 of 11834
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

Beckett's great in the room. I don't think that's where the show displays a procedural weakness at all.

Maybe not a procedural weakness, although personally I don't find the writing nearly as strong there. But that might be a personal preference for character interactions over the procedural stuff.


§ ita § - Mar 31, 2010 10:55:32 am PDT #5231 of 11834
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

This is going to be the end of D'Onofrio on the show, right? That is what I'm gathering from the ads

I could spoil ya (obviously I wasn't hugely spoilt, or I'd have known the Cap was going to die) for that, but this isn't the place for it.

that might be a personal preference for character interactions over the procedural stuff.

They definitely are the show's strength.

I do wonder how much longer and how they will keep Beckett and Castle apart now that everyone has told Beckett she needs to hit that. They'd better learn from Bones.


Trudy Booth - Mar 31, 2010 3:02:20 pm PDT #5232 of 11834
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

trudy: firing a weapon into a crowd of civilians is a huge no no.

Like I said, NYPD...

(Granted, they've chilled out a bit in the past few years, but they certainly would have not long ago. I'm not saying that its legal or a great idea. And Beckett really is cool enough to not have done it. It was more disappointment with the IRL police that had me thinking it.)

I'm still not buying that its forbidden to shoot the serial killer kidnapper actively kidnapping an FBI agent. That's what the guys across the street were going in to do. If there is such a thing as a special sniper warrant surely they got one for that operation. (Then again, there didn't seem to be any snipers. Why WERE they there without any snipers? Everybody goes running in and there are no dudes with scopes on nearby buildings?)

I was, however, making flaily hands that she went into foot pursuit with even NOTIFYING cover units much less calling for backup. Plus, as soon as she ran into the subway she would have been on the phone with transit telling them to stop the bloody train.

That they can't do -- no cell service in the subway stations. I'm not even sure if they've straightened out the inter-department walkie talkies yet.

Though those backup officers certainly would have come in handy had she called them (or had Castle call them). One could have stayed at the top of the stairs and called NY Erin.

I don't look to Castle for real tight procedure either, its the "oopsyness" of the dumbness - the way it artificially prolonged the suspense -- that is annoying. I'll still watch it, but I'll have some trepedation about two-parters and what they'll do for suspense.