No Rupert Penry-Jones?

There goes my incentive for watching that show.

I hated Jenny and thought she was consistently incompetent. And that's how she went out.

Yeah, she did rather let her obsession get in the way of rationality.

I'm glad they are replacing LL. With the character's history with Gibbs, she should have been so much more interesting than she was. I do think that history had more to do with why the character was apologizing for herself than the fact that she was a woman in power.

I hated Jenny and thought she was consistently incompetent. And that's how she went out.

I agree. Also, I thought that Ziva's presence was explained as a favor to Jenny - didn't they say that Ziva and Jenny were friendly in the past, and that at one point Ziva had saved her life? Because other than that, I don't understand why a foreign operative would be acting as an employee of an American military investigative unit for such a long period. (I mean, she wasn't there just for one case, or a case specific to the Mossad. She was there long-term.) It never made sense to me. On the other hand, I freely admit that my law education comes from the school of L&O, so I could be completely wrong.

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The board seems to have taken a dislike to me. When I was trying to formulate the message it kicked me out twice, and after I wrote it in Notepad and then tried to post, it posted it twice. Tonight's not a full moon, is it?

I always assumed Jenny had forced Ziva's presence, and I think we were supposed to assume that they were more than friendly. By the time Jenny died, Gibbs had fully integrated Ziva into the team and wasn't likely to make it easy to pull her out. Keeping her also made Mossad happy. She was One of Ours by then, so Gibbs fought to get her back after the team was broken up. When she asked him to choose between her and Tony, though, she showed she didn't trust Gibbs the way he trusted her, and he wasn't going to choose one agent over another. It will be interesting to see how they get her.

I thinl Ziva knew Gibbs wouldn't choose and said what she said to get the team to leave.

I've watched the finale twice, now, and still can't really get a good reading on that. I think she did for the reason that sj says, but at the same time, it's very revealing that Gibbs would choose Tony over Ziva. I'm also very afraid that NCIS is moving into the "decadent" phase of show-running. We had Tony beat down a Mossad assassin (with the help of said assassin's .16 blood alcohol content), we find out that Ziva was instructed to kill her brother to get in good with Gibbs (talk about retcon!) And at the very end, we find she's been taken hostage and is being tortured for info on NCIS? What happened to all her teammates? Just who has her? NCIS is not that important an agency in the scheme of things. I don't know that they can come up with anything I'll find believable when they come back next season.

I finally watched the 8 Bones eps I hadn't seen yet last weekend, and caught up on the past 200+ posts here. I thought it was a Booth anesthesia dream and kind of overlooked the Brennan writing part. Of course it was Brennan; for one thing, a particular drug always added to anesthesia these days to create/cause short-term amnesia for the period the patient is under. Doc/hospitals didn't like being sued etc. for the things that they said during surgery, so they makes sure no one can remember. It's a detail I would be pleased to have a show get right. But do we think Brennan has that kind of imagination? They've not shown her being that sort of creative before. I suppose I could go along with the idea that this is the side of her that writes her best selling novels, which are just alluded to in the show.

LOVED Sweets singing! Who knew? He was terrific; I wanted them to stay with that longer than they did.

Bad thing about reading lots then posting: TLDR.

Elena really was on the show for 4 years? Wow! Tivo grabbed a March or April show for me and I was shocked, shocked to see Sam and Jack together (and she dyed her hair?!). IMHO they are terrible together. They shouldn't have killed off Mary Elizabeth or whatever they did with her, I forgot exactly what. So I'm glad to read that they broke up before the series ended.

Jack's daughter was annoying, "You tell me about your girlfriend. We're bonding." Yeah, right. I have more but this is TLDR even for me.