A year and a half ago, I could have eviscerated him with my thoughts. Now I can barely hurt his feelings. Things used to be so much simpler.

Anya ,'Dirty Girls'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


Connie Neil - May 22, 2009 6:12:26 am PDT #3267 of 11831
brillig

I want a procedural where the accused spouse really did not have an affair, where the other spouse really is just an obsessive nutball and the sympathetic other person really is just sympathetic. Every time our investigative heros get into the interrogation room and start screaming at the suspect, I'm rooting for the suspect to be proven innocent and then to sue the investigators for abuse.

NCIS and Bones will occasionally have someone innocent in the interrogation room. And on at least one Bones, the guilty party didn't confess and there wasn't enough evidence for a good case. It was very refreshing.


Frankenbuddha - May 22, 2009 6:27:45 am PDT #3268 of 11831
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Don't forget the very special episode

Bonus points if they can combine a, b and c.


Frankenbuddha - May 22, 2009 6:30:28 am PDT #3269 of 11831
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Garrett Dillahunt

I love him, but the only time I haven't seem him play a villain (generally one of maximum loathsomeness) of some kind was on John from Cicninatti (except maybe John Henry on SCC, but his earlier incarnation definitely was).


brenda m - May 22, 2009 6:33:21 am PDT #3270 of 11831
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Oh! There was a John Henry look alike on the bus the other morning and it creeped me right the fuck out.

(Something in his posture and stillness making it the character and not the actor that he doppelganged.)


§ ita § - May 22, 2009 6:40:07 am PDT #3271 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I can remember innocent parties in the box in L&O and The Closer off the top of my head.


erikaj - May 22, 2009 9:30:07 am PDT #3272 of 11831
Always Anti-fascist!

And then there's H:LOTS. Where they can get the right guy in the Box and still make you wonder who the bad guy is.


§ ita § - May 22, 2009 10:47:17 am PDT #3273 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

CSI and Cold Case are always calling people into the box until they hit one that sings. Every episode. It's not that rare, I don't think.


Connie Neil - May 22, 2009 11:23:53 am PDT #3274 of 11831
brillig

It may be anti-social of me, but I love when the guilty one won't crack. The cases are so often so flimsy that they wouldn't get anywhere without a confession. And I notice the cases almost never show the conviction. Which is standard, I believe.


§ ita § - May 22, 2009 11:34:40 am PDT #3275 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I notice the cases almost never show the conviction. Which is standard, I believe.

It doesn't fall under the umbrella of the procedural, I don't think. That gets as far as solving the crime, and a little bit of satisfaction of seeing the guilty person nabbed. L&O has to excise so much time to include the legal proceedings in the same narrative.


Tom Scola - May 22, 2009 11:38:27 am PDT #3276 of 11831
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

On Dragnet, they would announce at the end of each episode what sentence the perp got.

DUM DA DUM DUM!