I think what my daughter's trying to say is: nyah nyah nyah nyah.

Joyce ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


Connie Neil - Sep 06, 2008 2:17:35 pm PDT #1644 of 11831
brillig

Maybe now that Angela isn't happily paired off she'll stop trying to hook Brennan and Booth up.


Sophia Brooks - Sep 06, 2008 2:18:52 pm PDT #1645 of 11831
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

You know, I just realized that I am disappointed mostly because I hoped they would become like Zoe/Wash and be married, yet interesting, yet happy in their marriage.


sumi - Sep 06, 2008 8:33:06 pm PDT #1646 of 11831
Art Crawl!!!

How the NY Times describes the cliffhanger from last season's season finale of House:

HOUSE (Fox, Sept. 16) Will prime time’s most unhealthy, obsessive love affair — the one between Dr. House (Hugh Laurie) and Dr. Wilson (Robert Sean Leonard) — survive the fact that House was instrumental in Wilson’s girlfriend’s death?


Fay - Sep 07, 2008 2:36:51 am PDT #1647 of 11831
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Ah, bless the NY Times. I didn't see the rest of that season, but the two final episodes broke me!

Meanwhile, I too am disappointed as hell that the writers seen fit to break up Angela and Hodgins in what does sound like a terribly random and unconvincing fashion. Really, I think that they're underestimating the audience's attention span. The time they took in setting up the attraction between the two of them, and on the relationship developing in a refreshingly grownup way (and I can't help but recall Angela's amusement and understanding at Hodgins' attraction to the hot FBI agent chick with the nice rack, and his flusteredness & guilt).

I'd prefer them to stay together, on the whole, because I like them as a couple and because it's so refreshing to see a relationship ticking along and getting stronger, rather than being beset with contrived plotbunnies. But if they wanted to break them up, then I think that the actors' work and the writers' time and effort in establishing the relationship did merit a little more laying-of-groundwork.

It sounds cheap, is what I'm saying.


le nubian - Sep 07, 2008 4:49:07 am PDT #1648 of 11831
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

So, someone at twop typed up the Bones breakup scene. Here it is in all of its glory:

Angela: Sweets is actually good at his job.

Jack: I know, right? I mean, did you understand that you were actually mad at Cam?

Angela: Actually, I was mad at her. I mean, you don't have sex with someone and then expect everything to be fine.

Jack: [..]when they're supposed be gone and out of our lives, it's not fine.

Angela: It definitely is not.

Jack: Why? You're divorced. Why weren't you fine with Cam sleeping with him?

Angela: For the same reason you weren't fine with him still being in town.

Jack: But if everything's over with him, why do you care who he sleeps with?

Angela: Why do you care that he's still in town?

Jack: I don't care.

Angela: Obviously you do. If you were 100% certain of me, you wouldn't care. But you do.

Jack: If you were 100% certain you didn't want him, you wouldn't care that Cam slept with him.

Angela: You don't trust me.

Jack: Saying that means you do n't trust me.

Angela: How can two people who don't trust each other get married?

Jack: I thought we did trust each other!

Angela: Yeah, I did too. Two people who don't trust each other shouldn't be with each other at all.

Jack: You really think that?

Angela: Don't you?

Jack: Yeah, I do.. I actually do think that, but.. Oh, my God..

Angela: Yeah..

Jack: I don't know what happened.

Angela: I don't either. But I know it did happen. I'm gonna go.

..she gets up.

Angela: You know, all you had to do was trust me.

Jack: Hey.. You're the one that's leaving.

Angela: You're the one who isn't stopping me.

..and she leaves.


Barb - Sep 07, 2008 4:57:07 am PDT #1649 of 11831
“Not dead yet!”

Angela: Obviously you do. If you were 100% certain of me, you wouldn't care. But you do.

Jack: If you were 100% certain you didn't want him, you wouldn't care that Cam slept with him.

And that's one place where it completely falls apart-- because it devolved into a high school/adolescent tunnel-vision sort of mentality. Because real grownups understand that life and love aren't ever about one hundred percent anything.


Fay - Sep 07, 2008 5:09:02 am PDT #1650 of 11831
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Oh good grief.

Really? Really? THIS is how we're writing them? After going to such lengths to establish that these are two grownups with many and varied relationships under their belts? Suddenly they sound like characters from Twilight?

I am very disappointed.


sumi - Sep 07, 2008 8:05:17 am PDT #1651 of 11831
Art Crawl!!!

It is extremely disappointing. I suppose the writers must think that decent on-going relationships must be boring - even if the people involved are people we like and don't find , you know, boring.


SailAweigh - Sep 07, 2008 11:25:01 am PDT #1652 of 11831
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

And that's one place where it completely falls apart-- because it devolved into a high school/adolescent tunnel-vision sort of mentality.

Oh, how I hated this. I know there are some people who think like this into their 50s, 60s, wev, but we've already seen Angela and Hodgins be grown-up. There's no take backs, writers! Not without a hell of a lot more laying it out over time. Gah! I dropped this show back in season one, but picked it back up in season two, because it did get better. I make no guarantees for this season.


Stephanie - Sep 07, 2008 11:37:53 am PDT #1653 of 11831
Trust my rage

I must be clueless but I totally missed the hinted-at-whitefont established in last season. Anyhow, I thought the breakup was, as said by others, lame.