Joyce: Dawn, you be good. Xander: We will. Just gonna play with some matches, run with scissors, take candy from some guy, I don't know his name.

'Beneath You'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


§ ita § - Nov 20, 2013 4:05:49 pm PST #10276 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Okay, Carter's dead. What made it a fridging? Who's all emo about it? John? Any specific behaviours dragged out of him by his raw manly grief?


sj - Nov 20, 2013 4:10:00 pm PST #10277 of 11831
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I don't know what fridging is, I'm just sad to see Carter go. The previews did make it look like John is going to go off the deep end a bit as a result.


sj - Nov 20, 2013 4:11:39 pm PST #10278 of 11831
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I don't think that Carter's and John's feelings or the kiss came out of nowhere. I think the show established they formed a deep bond since they'd started working together.


WindSparrow - Nov 20, 2013 4:26:01 pm PST #10279 of 11831
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

I agree, but then I've kind of been shipping them for a while, Zoe notwithstanding.


§ ita § - Nov 20, 2013 4:35:27 pm PST #10280 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Fridging is killing a (female) character for no reason other than to give motivation for a male character. I'm not sure most TV deaths aren't fridgings of either gender, ergo Carter's was kinda gonna be, but without knowing more about it, I can't say.


WindSparrow - Nov 20, 2013 5:00:43 pm PST #10281 of 11831
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

It makes sense to me that the whole team could not make it out of the fight against HR alive so somebody had to die. But I was very, very glad that Carter had asked John et al. for help in the first place. I feared that she would die fruitlessly going it alone. She went above and beyond that. The fact that it was almost all over and they had pretty much won makes it heartbreaking and frustrating. I do love that she went down fighting - Simmons shot Reese, Carter drew her weapon and started shooting back but took a bullet in the chest. Reese is going to hate that this woman that he cared about died - but he is going to doubly hate that she died trying to protect him. And to think, he had more issues than a box of National Geographics in a library basement before.


Ginger - Nov 20, 2013 5:56:29 pm PST #10282 of 11831
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Now it's a show with white males and psychopathic white females. Carter was far and away the best realized character.

I am so over the whole "we're going to die so I'm going to tell you my true feelings" thing. The show had established a bond, but it didn't seem like that kind of bond. It just seemed like a cheap setup to have a "John goes over the edge" episodes. Also, while I've become fond of Jim Caviezel as this character, it's not like he can actually do emotions.

I thought Fusco's son lived with his wife. His son was barely mentioned and suddenly becomes a major plot point?

I am not happy.


WindSparrow - Nov 20, 2013 6:10:29 pm PST #10283 of 11831
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

I thought Fusco's son lived with his wife. His son was barely mentioned and suddenly becomes a major plot point?

I don't believe they ever specified that the ex-wife has full custody of the son such that there were never overnights with dad.


§ ita § - Nov 20, 2013 6:17:27 pm PST #10284 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Now it's a show with white males and psychopathic white females.

Sarah Shahi is not white.


Ginger - Nov 20, 2013 6:29:12 pm PST #10285 of 11831
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Sarah Shahi is not white.

Psychopathic Caucasian females, then.