Question: Will hiding in a cavern with stockpiled chocolate goods be any part of this plan?

Xander ,'Get It Done'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


Typo Boy - Oct 12, 2013 11:12:16 am PDT #10141 of 11831
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

And the reason they had him threaten to expose uncover agents, and have trouble getting dates?


§ ita § - Oct 14, 2013 6:09:20 am PDT #10142 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I missed a couple Mentalist things and don't have interest/energy to go back:

1) Why didn't Jane attend the wedding?
2) Wait, I forgot the other thing. Shit. Right! Where did the wedding dress come from?


WindSparrow - Oct 14, 2013 6:21:00 am PDT #10143 of 11831
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

About the Mentalist:

1. I believe Jane was outside coordinating the re-enactors for the 21-gun salute and the carriage. His misty-eyed appearance at the door during the ceremony lends itself to believing he had wrangled that job for himself as much so that he wouldn't fall prey to a public expression of his own pain (such as was seen as he walked away after having viewed pics of baby Benjamin right after the birth) as to give the gift of Capital-R Romance to the bride and groom.

2. I don't really know for sure if the audience is supposed to assume Van Pelt just drags the thing around with her. Napa is not that far away from Sacramento. They might not have needed to stay in a motel for the investigation, even. It certainly would not have been difficult for her to make a quick run home to get it. Hour and a half, each way. Less if she lets Jane drive.

ETA: 3. I just realized I just explained California geography to a California resident. Sorry. I spend wayyyyyyyyy too much time explaining California geography to other fan fic writers in the fandom from other parts of the world.


le nubian - Oct 14, 2013 8:05:45 am PDT #10144 of 11831
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

hee hee. Windsparrow, I got a kick out of your description even though I know the geography too.


§ ita § - Oct 14, 2013 9:09:53 am PDT #10145 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh! I thought I had answered this this morning. Oops.

So she has a wedding dress and all the fixings on hand from the former engagement, is the theory?


WindSparrow - Oct 14, 2013 10:13:21 am PDT #10146 of 11831
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

So she has a wedding dress and all the fixings on hand from the former engagement, is the theory?

Yes. Presumably she wasn't totally bullshitting with all that goop she was talking to the other bride after Jane told her to talk the woman into going through with her wedding so that he could have the killer reveal himself at the reception.


Vortex - Oct 14, 2013 6:03:44 pm PDT #10147 of 11831
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I love James Spader but Lizzie is so. fucking. stupid. that it BURNS.

why is she searching for the secret files on her home fucking laptop?

Why is she hiding shit (badly) from her husband? She works for the FBI, she can just say "sorry, honey, it's classified" and that's the end of it. Instead, she's hiding shit under a legal pad and crossing out shit SHE WROTE DOWN on said legal pad.

(I've accepted the ridiculousness of submitting the bullet without paperwork, although if the shit was THAT redacted, they probably wouldn't have given it to her in the first damned place)

But, I will not accept "I forgot my badge, can I just look around while you check". Seriously? It's a fucking FBI storage facility and anyone can just roll in? SERIOUSLY.

I really want to like this show, but the situations don't make any damned sense and they expect you to believe that all of this shit "just happens" to Lizzie.

The whole "I'm going to talk to you and you're going to tell me your evil plan because I read people" bit. And a trained killer who makes bodies disappear completely knows how to tie fucking zip ties so that the stupid FBI agent stays in the freaking wheelchair!!!!

And the "paralytic drug" trope always irritates me because if you are paralyzed, you can't freaking breathe. Also, chemistry-istas, is it possible to have a drug that completely dissolves flesh and bone, but doesn't damage the finish of the tub?

Ugh. If James Spader wasn't so good . . .


Frankenbuddha - Oct 14, 2013 6:38:35 pm PDT #10148 of 11831
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Definitely back in fun Castle land. Not quite enough Rynsposito (TM) (sorry), but definitely the Castle I prefer.


le nubian - Oct 14, 2013 8:30:02 pm PDT #10149 of 11831
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

(pointing) - what Vortex said.


beekaytee - Oct 14, 2013 10:29:15 pm PDT #10150 of 11831
Compassionately intolerant

Also, chemistry-istas, is it possible to have a drug that completely dissolves flesh and bone, but doesn't damage the finish of the tub?

Gotta say, these actual words came out of my actual mouth during the episode.

Plus? Dissolving the bodies fully clothed in a tub with a normal drain that seemed undamaged. "Rub your fingers around the drain for the flesh eating chemicals?"

Even if such a chemical cocktail would really liquify a body so much that it runs down the drain like shampoo bubbles, wouldn't that take DAYS, if not weeks? But yet the smell of the chemicals lingered but the chemicals did not burn Lizzie's skin or nose.

I'm no chemist but...

And, a paralytic drug that makes it impossible to move one's arms, Raggedy Ann style, but leaves the vocal chords, tongue and lips uneffected. Not even a slur. Right.

I love James Spader in this role, and will stick with it but I think I'm going to have to watch the good bits with one eye closed and then switch for the rubbish...that doesn't have to be so rubbishy!