Lorne: Take care of yourself and ah, make sure fluffy is getting enough love. Gunn: Did he have anything? Fred: No. And who's fluffy? Are you fluffy? Gunn: He called me fluffy? Fred: He said make sure…wait. You don't think he was referring to anything of mine that's fluffy, do you? Because that would just be inappropriate.

'Conviction (1)'


Comedy 1: A Little Song, a Little Dance, a Little Seltzer Down Your Pants

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§ ita § - May 19, 2012 12:45:49 pm PDT #5648 of 8624
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What's to be resolved in 13 episodes?

At the most simple--graduating any or all of them from school seems the most obvious.

But I couldn't have imagined one single episode of this show, so I'm not going to say that any idea of mine is at all relevant. I just think that giving any writing crew a clearer idea of when their last episode is, as well as giving time to work up to it is never a bad thing.

The back half of this season was written (and filmed) into a vacuum. This is less of one.


-t - May 19, 2012 12:52:37 pm PDT #5649 of 8624
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I don't know, if this is what they do in a vacuum, maybe more vacuum is the way to go.

But I think I'm confusing what you originally meant. I was taking "Now they'll have time to end properly" as the motivation for the 13 episode order, which I can't see, but if it is just that having a final 13 episodes will allow for a tidy wrapping up, then I am understanding.


§ ita § - May 19, 2012 2:01:52 pm PDT #5650 of 8624
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Most of the articles I've read have said that the 13 ep order will give them a chance to write to a deliberate end. NBC doesn't give a fuck, but the writers are now afforded that opportunity.


-t - May 19, 2012 2:13:32 pm PDT #5651 of 8624
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

OK. I still don't find that a comforting thought, but I get the concept.


Steph L. - May 19, 2012 2:23:05 pm PDT #5652 of 8624
I look more rad than Lutheranism

What's to be resolved in 13 episodes?

At the most simple--graduating any or all of them from school seems the most obvious.

That, plus Jeff and his dad, which has been teased all 3 seasons. (Though without Harmon, that might be a plot line that's dropped.) Maybe Jeff and Annie will hook up.


§ ita § - May 19, 2012 3:30:08 pm PDT #5653 of 8624
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think Troy and Britta are more in need of resolution right now. Jeff and Annie are in a stable place right now, as I see it. Troy and Britta are teetering on the edge of something undefined.


Steph L. - May 19, 2012 3:38:20 pm PDT #5654 of 8624
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Oooh, that, too.


Tom Scola - May 22, 2012 2:11:57 pm PDT #5655 of 8624
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Interesting perspective on the Harmon situation: [link]


§ ita § - May 22, 2012 2:27:55 pm PDT #5656 of 8624
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I like that post. It's reasonable and sounds like they know what they're talking about. It's dispiriting how many commenters I saw taking extreme positions while conflating Sony and NBC (not even presuming collusion, just not distinguishing between the two relationships to the show).


-t - May 22, 2012 2:40:38 pm PDT #5657 of 8624
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I know that's a mistake I was making, conflating the two. And sorting that out made everything make a lot more sense. That post is very clear and agrees with a lot of the conclusions I've been coming to, and I always like that.

I'm very pleased that Megan Ganz seems to be sticking around, she wrote some great episodes - Lupine Urology and at least one other standout, I think.

Really, I'm still sad that Harmon won't get a chance to surprise me by making an even better 4th season (and by better I mean more satisfying and rewarding to me personally) than 3rd season, but I have to recognize that it would have been a surprise just because this 3rd season was so damn good.