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Comedy 1: A Little Song, a Little Dance, a Little Seltzer Down Your Pants

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DavidS - Jul 11, 2011 7:25:41 am PDT #4185 of 8625
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

And yet I'm reasonably sure that people don't associate it with servants at Cambridge university.

Well, I didn't associate it with gypsies either.


Steph L. - Jul 11, 2011 7:39:41 am PDT #4186 of 8625
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Well, I didn't associate it with gypsies either.

You individually didn't know that. I'm comfortable making the assumption that there are more people currently in existence who know that "gyp" is likely derived from "Gypsy" than there are people who know that it came from servants at Cambridge university.


DavidS - Jul 11, 2011 8:05:45 am PDT #4187 of 8625
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

If the derivation of the word does not originally come from a slur on gypsies then it's a different issue. Its an inadvertent association, sort of like the homonym issue you get with "niggardly."


Hil R. - Jul 11, 2011 8:06:49 am PDT #4188 of 8625
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

The first time I ever heard "gypped" was in the context of "this is a word you shouldn't use, because it's insulting to Gypsies." I'd never noticed "gypped" being used in any way before that, but after that, I started noticing it in old books. I had no idea it was still in modern usage at all until I started hearing it more often in the past few years.

There was an episode of House where his patient was a teenage Roma boy, and House made a point of using "gypped" in his presence a few times just to get him annoyed.


Hil R. - Jul 11, 2011 8:07:43 am PDT #4189 of 8625
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

The Greek association seems odd to me. Does Greek even have that J sound?


DavidS - Jul 11, 2011 8:08:32 am PDT #4190 of 8625
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Does Greek even have that J sound?

How do you pronounce "gyros"?


Hil R. - Jul 11, 2011 8:11:25 am PDT #4191 of 8625
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

How do you pronounce "gyros"?

yee-ros.


Kathy A - Jul 11, 2011 8:21:28 am PDT #4192 of 8625
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

There are a lot of places in Chicagoland that serve burgers, hot dogs, Italian Beef, and gyros under the same roof, and most if not all Chicagoans of all ethnicities pronouce it "yee-ros," not "jai-ros."


DavidS - Jul 11, 2011 8:47:30 am PDT #4193 of 8625
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

A longish but interesting article about police bunco investigations targeting Roma groups. Interesting because the article tries to parse the issue of racial profiling as well as a longstanding presumption (in the culture at large, but especially here with the police) that Roma are culturally predisposed to swindling as a way of life.

A Georgia Consumer Affairs warning specifically citing Irish Travelers for a tradition of fraud.

The article is from 2006 and the Georgia warning is from 2007 so these are still fairly recent.

I am not making a case here against the Rom or Travelers, but presenting information about the association of gypsy cultures and swindling, which is still very ingrained and not solely as ethnic prejudice but as matters addressed by police investigators and consumer affairs offices. (Of course the police would never indulge in racial profiling.)


Hil R. - Jul 11, 2011 8:51:24 am PDT #4194 of 8625
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Hec, what point are you trying to make about the appropriateness or not of the word "gypped"?