I know I shouldn't be thinking about it at all -- the musical numbers were great! -- but WTF was up with Will's characterization? He's going to break out of his rut by performing with the kids? It's not like that's the first time he's done it. And as much as I laughed when he said it, "Sailing" is his jam?? What about BBD, etc.

For all that they go on about the superhot and attractive Glee clubbers being horrible geeks they sure spend a lot of time making sure there are geekier and fatter kids for them to be superior to.

Word. The kid with the Jewfro and the "unattractive" girl next to him, that whole scene just horrified me.

WTF was up with Will's characterization?

I just... can't watch this show any more. The characterization is horrendously sloppy - the characters are static or completely OOC as required by the plot, but they don't seem to grow or evolve. It's gone from camp to grotesque and I won't give them a pass for being a comedy.

With that, I shall focus on Community squee and STFU about Glee.

The episode just felt... off, to me.

It's like the production numbers were good, as independent entities. I enjoyed them for what they were, in and of themselves. With respect to their position within the narrative? NSM.

Mostly because there wasn't much of a narrative and what was there was piss poor. Which is a huge problem, since such a large amount of GLEE's charm has to do with its ability to incorporate the musical numbers into the fabric of the storyline.

I'm currently feeling as if I want to smack the shit out of Ryan Murphy.

since such a large amount of GLEE's charm has to do with its ability to incorporate the musical numbers into the fabric of the storyline.

Which they really didn't do with this ep, it's why I found the first half so disappointing. The first three numbers were just revamps of Britney vids (side note: Lea Michele is not much of a dancer is she?). Well done revamps, but still (and had to love Me Against the Music with Santana). It didn't get entertaining until Artie's "Stronger". I liked the group "Toxic", and I think that it's the first time that Will has officially performed with the kids, he's done it in classroom and impromptu numbers in the halls, but I think that this is the first time he's done it with an "audience"

Lea Michele is not much of a dancer is she?

No. She never had or was offered a dancing role in the theater scene. As far as I know, she never even auditioned for such roles. She is more the balladeer type, Eponine in Les Mis, and her originated Wendla in Spring Awakening being her most memorable and important roles.

She also really needs to eat a sandwich. She was skinny before she went on TV, but now it's starting to worry me.

She also really needs to eat a sandwich.

Can we not engage in body policing, please?

where do you draw the line? There are some people on tv who look really unhealthy for a variety of reasons. given tv is an influential medium and eating disorders, etc. are an established problem...it can't be discussed?

1. Is it a matter of record that she has an eating disorder?

2. Saying that someone who you consider to be too thin "should eat a sandwich" is just as insulting as telling someone you consider too fat to stop eating.

3. Discussing eating disorders is fine. They're a real problem, among actors and non-actors alike.

But if it's not known that she actually has an eating disorder, saying that she "really needs to eat a sandwich" is body policing, saying that her body does not conform to an external standard of acceptable appearance. And her body is nobody's business but hers.

She went vegan in the last year or so, which, along with the long working days, is what her weight loss has been attributed to.

Steph,

And her body is nobody's business but hers.

Is that true for people in the public eye? It is true for you and me I suppose, but if we can talk about a star's behavior, or what they say publicly, appearance seems to come in there too.

Earlier people criticized the show for marginalizing "ugly" characters to support some members of "Glee", so appearance has already come up.