And the thing is, I like my evil like I like my men: evil. You know, straight up, black hat, tied to the train tracks, soon my electro-ray will destroy metropolis BAD.

Buffy ,'Sleeper'


Comedy 1: A Little Song, a Little Dance, a Little Seltzer Down Your Pants

This thread is for comedy TV, including network and cable shows. [NAFDA]


brenda m - Nov 12, 2009 8:32:38 am PST #1885 of 8624
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Hmm. That Murphy article was pretty "oh we're so special and groundbreaking and whatev" for me. But this bit was interesting:

Speaking of rocking out, “Wheels” also features the show choir’s first diva off, a battle royale between Rachel and Kurt. The idea was born when Colfer shared with Murphy how he had begged his high school drama department to let him perform his favorite song, “Defying Gravity,” and he was denied every year because he’s male.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 12, 2009 9:06:10 am PST #1886 of 8624
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I wasn't familiar with the song, but other than the key it was sung in it didn't strike me as particularly gendered. I certainly didn't think Kurt performing that would be more likely to subject his dad to slurs than, say, walking down the hall dressed as he normally is.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Nov 12, 2009 9:07:04 am PST #1887 of 8624
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

I'd like to read what some people in a wheelchair thinks about the whole "time in a wheelchair/song in a wheelchair" thing. My first reaction was, "At least it's not a fat suit." My second reaction was "Ally!fail." Anybody got links to a good disability blog post on the topic?

There's a number of news articles - it seems to have drawn attention more to the fact that the actor playing Artie is not disabled, rather than concern about the episode itself (which I haven't seen - I'm behind on Glee). See [link] (I love Robert David Hall to bits) and all manner of similar articles in newspapers all over the internet. For blog posts on the wider disability issue and Glee, the only ones I can find are the glorious Trouble in China at [link] and MANY other posts(she's really angry about Glee) and FWD/Forward at [link] (I haven't decided whether I agree with the post yet). I'll ask around the disability blog community to see if I can find any more specific posts about the most recent ep.

I'm only up to episode 5, but I'm nonplussed by Artie - nice to see a disabled character, would be better if he was played by a disabled actor, even better would be a wider representation of disability rather than focusing on wheelchairs (used by only 8% of the disabled population, in the UK at least) - but ultimately this is a comedy and they're out to have fun, not to change society single-handedly. In short, I have not made up my mind about the whole thing. (I might have to skip to this ep to think about it, especially if "time in a wheelchair" means 'empathy exercises', which are WIDELY discredited in the disabled community, and I'd like to know what Glee's take on this was.)

If my friends and I *ever* get round to the disability and cult film/TV podcast series that we've been planning for about a year now, I'm sure we'll talk about comedy, and Glee in particular.


brenda m - Nov 12, 2009 9:40:15 am PST #1888 of 8624
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

(I might have to skip to this ep to think about it, especially if "time in a wheelchair" means 'empathy exercises', which are WIDELY discredited in the disabled community, and I'd like to know what Glee's take on this was.)

Their take was complete "oh, now I know how hard you have it" which, yeah. (And so was Murphy in that article, which is what I objected to.) The Sue storyline was actually handled with a lot more finesse. Speaking of which, while they did give us the sister as explanation, I notice that early in the ep Sue is apparently concerned about finals and that to win the judges will have to like them. I don't think the Becky storyline is unrelated to that either.


smonster - Nov 12, 2009 10:08:37 am PST #1889 of 8624
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Seska, thanks for the links! I'll be interested to hear your opinion when you see the episode.

Although my understanding is all the other characters did need to be able to both sing and dance at their audition, why would they have looked for any number of qualified people who could sing and dance in a wheelchair?

Excellent point (made with sarcasm) from troubleinchina. I don't really buy Murphy's whole "we looked" thing. LOOK HARDER.

brenda, I agree with you about Sue's motivation(s).


Fred Pete - Nov 13, 2009 5:06:09 am PST #1890 of 8624
Ann, that's a ferret.

Office: The teaser for last night's episode may have been the best two minutes so far this season. It's been too long since Jim messed with Dwight's mind.

Creed almost stole the show in only 5 seconds on-camera.

Ryan's outfit reached new levels of bad. And not in the Michael Jackson album way.


Daisy Jane - Nov 13, 2009 11:30:20 am PST #1891 of 8624
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I am loving last nights The Office. "Strange world full of many smells."

Also, maybe it's just me, but I loved the discussion of all southern accents not sounding like Forrest Gump.


Dana - Nov 13, 2009 3:16:18 pm PST #1892 of 8624
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I know I'm behind, but I loved Wednesday's Glee. Kurt! I smish you, Kurt.


Laga - Nov 13, 2009 3:41:53 pm PST #1893 of 8624
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I missed Pam's exit until I watched 30 Rock tonight. So awesome.


sj - Nov 17, 2009 4:59:36 am PST #1894 of 8624
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Penny and Sheldon were hysterical in Big Bang Theory last night.