You're wrong about River. River's not on the ship. They didn't want her here, but she couldn't make herself leave. So she melted... Melted away. They didn't know she could do that, but she did.

River ,'Objects In Space'


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vw bug - Sep 12, 2007 12:05:02 pm PDT #5270 of 10001
Mostly lurking...

Yeah, I'm sorry guys. I really mucked that up. And I wasn't trying to say anything about that at all.


NoiseDesign - Sep 12, 2007 12:05:53 pm PDT #5271 of 10001
Our wings are not tired

Thank doG for airport WiFi.

It looks like First Class is full though, so I doubt I'll be able to get an upgrade.


lisah - Sep 12, 2007 12:06:17 pm PDT #5272 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

I think I'd say "born-again Christian" or "evangelical" or even just "Protestant."

well I don't know about "born-again" but there are evangelical Catholics. And they are all Christian! As far as I remember.


lisah - Sep 12, 2007 12:10:21 pm PDT #5273 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

Yeah, I'm sorry guys. I really mucked that up. And I wasn't trying to say anything about that at all.

Oh, yeah, no problem!

I just had TOTALLY forgotten about that fight. Part of my history of not taking bullshit from nominal authority figures. Sometimes to my detriment.


Susan W. - Sep 12, 2007 12:11:46 pm PDT #5274 of 10001
The wide universe is the ocean I travel, and the earth is my blue boat home

well I don't know about "born-again" but there are evangelical Catholics. And they are all Christian! As far as I remember.

That's true, but I think the term still defaults to a subset of Protestants.

Thing is, ALL the terms are confusing. I can say I'm Presbyterian, but there are so many flavors of Presbys that by itself that doesn't tell you much. I'd have to go on to say that I'm PC-USA, which is mainline and the most liberal flavor of Presbyterianism, but that my church is evangelical, but lefty-evangelical what with ordaining women and so on, and that I'm liberal by my congregation's standards, and by then you've probably fallen asleep.


vw bug - Sep 12, 2007 12:14:34 pm PDT #5275 of 10001
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My exact denomination is "evangelical free," which sounds like it's on the really evangelical/conservative side, which it's actually not. Well, at least not compared to some churches I've been in. It is really confusing. And kinda stupid, actually. I mean, not entirely stupid...we each need to know where we stand, but I sometimes really hate that there are all of these divides. Why can't we just get along?

But, we can't, and blah, blah, blah. And I'm gonna shut up before I step in anymore guac.


NoiseDesign - Sep 12, 2007 12:17:05 pm PDT #5276 of 10001
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That's true, but I think the term still defaults to a subset of Protestants.

Huh, that was never the case in the circles I grew up in. Christian included all Christian churches and the dividing line was whether or not churches were Protestant or not.


Susan W. - Sep 12, 2007 12:19:49 pm PDT #5277 of 10001
The wide universe is the ocean I travel, and the earth is my blue boat home

Huh, that was never the case in the circles I grew up in. Christian included all Christian churches and the dividing line was whether or not churches were Protestant or not.

The term I was talking about was "evangelical"--that while there are evangelical Catholics, when I see "evangelical" by itself I assume the speaker/writer is referring to conservative Protestants.


megan walker - Sep 12, 2007 12:20:21 pm PDT #5278 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I think it's more that a number of born-again Christians don't consider other denominations Christian. I don't know anyone who isn't "born-again" that would use Christian to mean only that one subset.


NoiseDesign - Sep 12, 2007 12:21:02 pm PDT #5279 of 10001
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The term I was talking about was "evangelical"--that while there are evangelical Catholics, when I see "evangelical" by itself I assume the speaker/writer is referring to conservative Protestants.

Gotcha, I misread your meaning.