Do you know what else has blood in it? Blood.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Natter 53: We could just avoid making tortured puns  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - Sep 12, 2007 7:47:50 am PDT #9900 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Interesting:

Exploring the neurobiology of politics, scientists have found that liberals tolerate ambiguity and conflict better than conservatives because of how their brains work.

In a simple experiment reported todayin the journal Nature Neuroscience, scientists at New York University and UCLA show that political orientation is related to differences in how the brain processes information.

Previous psychological studies have found that conservatives tend to be more structured and persistent in their judgments whereas liberals are more open to new experiences. The latest study found those traits are not confined to political situations but also influence everyday decisions.

The results show "there are two cognitive styles -- a liberal style and a conservative style," said UCLA neurologist Dr. Marco Iacoboni, who was not connected to the latest research.

Based on the results, he said, liberals could be expected to more readily accept new social, scientific or religious ideas.

"There is ample data from the history of science showing that social and political liberals indeed do tend to support major revolutions in science," said Sulloway, who has written about the history of science and has studied behavioral differences between conservatives and liberals.


Dana - Sep 12, 2007 7:48:12 am PDT #9901 of 10001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

He sounds a little like Lord Peter Wimsey, except I'm sure Lord Peter spoke fluent Italian and was a perfect shot.


Sue - Sep 12, 2007 7:49:56 am PDT #9902 of 10001
hip deep in pie

I think the decaf coffee I just had wasn't. Getting all jittery...


Daisy Jane - Sep 12, 2007 7:50:21 am PDT #9903 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I don't know enough science, much less about the study to really argue with it, but behavioral science usually strikes me as, well BS. I particularly hate the ones that tell me what I'm naturally supposed to be like as a girl.


Toddson - Sep 12, 2007 7:51:27 am PDT #9904 of 10001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Also Peter Wimsey COULD drive. And was actually, you know, intelligent.


brenda m - Sep 12, 2007 7:52:59 am PDT #9905 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

See, but Toad even brings the rotund and argumentative along with the reckless and causing (and emerging unscathed from) dreadful occurances.

Incidentally, Tina Brown's new Diana book is supposed to actually be a really interesting look at the fortunes of the British aristocracy over the past thirty or forty years.


Toddson - Sep 12, 2007 7:55:24 am PDT #9906 of 10001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Yes, he is very much Mr. Toad.

You know what would be a really great non-profit? The International Internet Association to Keep Shrift From Killing People. Really.

Although I'd miss her rants and inventive threats about assorted idiots.


Kathy A - Sep 12, 2007 7:56:29 am PDT #9907 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Incidentally, Tina Brown's new Diana book is supposed to actually be a really interesting look at the fortunes of the British aristocracy over the past thirty or forty years.

That, and a brief look at the appalling state of education for girls of Diana's class that was available in the 1970s, even at boarding schools. Apparently, her school taught her next to nothing, which is why she was a kindergarten aide and not doing anything that required more education.


shrift - Sep 12, 2007 7:56:41 am PDT #9908 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Oh my god, I can't believe it isn't even noon yet. I guess I could pack up my office. That'll take about five minutes.

Wow. I started poking around my desk and found a task sheet for my current position. It's scheduled up the wazoo, in 15 minute blocks with a Time Completed box and space for initials.

I'm glad they didn't give this to me when I took this job, because I wouldn't have lasted a day being micromanaged like that.


tommyrot - Sep 12, 2007 7:59:05 am PDT #9909 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

A somewhat more detailed look at that study: [link]

The study results are actually quite modest -- the researchers claim to be the first to find a relationship between political differences and "a basic neuro-cognitive mechanism for self-regulation." However, these results are supported by a wide range of behavioral data which does support the idea that conservatives are less willing to accept complex arguments or shades of meaning compared to liberals.

Does this mean that liberals are "hard wired" to be different from conservatives? This data alone certainly doesn't support that claim. After all, the go/no go task is a learned activity. The reason that it's hard to inhibit tapping when the "M" appears is that you've learned to tap when you see a letter. You could also learn to tap only when you see an M, and you might be able to learn to be better at this task. Could you learn to be liberal (or conservative)? This study doesn't answer that question, but my suspicion is you could. After all, what's considered liberal in the U.S. is considered conservative in many places. In other places, a U.S. conservative would be considered a flaming liberal.