Lindsey: Why--why did you... Lorne: One last job. You're not part of the solution, Lindsey. You never will be. Lindsey: You kill me? A flunky?! I'm not just...Angel...kills me. You...Angel... Lorne: Good night, folks.

'Not Fade Away'


Natter 53: We could just avoid making tortured puns  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Susan W. - Aug 22, 2007 8:56:59 am PDT #6184 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I like football much better than hockey. I could give explanations based on my taste in sports--I don't care for soccer, either, and hockey is kinda like violent soccer on ice--but I'm sure what it really comes down to is I was born and raised in Alabama. Football is in my blood, and I still prefer the college to the pro game.


Trudy Booth - Aug 22, 2007 8:57:49 am PDT #6185 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Is there money in it?

There could be. It's all in the marketing. Back in the day baseball players were these squeaky-clean saints and fans ate it up.

I can see this well-rounded animal on the field/gentleman off thing being very promotable. And its not like they'd have to FIND those guys, they'd just have to focus on the ones they have.


§ ita § - Aug 22, 2007 8:59:20 am PDT #6186 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

A truism that makes me want to say...Kill me now.

Sports have always been that way, though, haven't they? If not money, then fame and glory comes along with the spotlight of popularity.

There could be. It's all in the marketing. Back in the day baseball players were these squeaky-clean saints and fans ate it up.

Don't know enough about baseball to say, but I'd not only be surprised if there weren't a seamy underbelly, but even more if the momentum of current popular sports could be changed noticably.


Trudy Booth - Aug 22, 2007 8:59:59 am PDT #6187 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

No, it's totally strategic and deliberate.

Cool. Did not know. I think of football having a "when the ball is snapped, you go kill X" element that hockey doesn't. I am fairly hockey illiterate.

Mmm. There are 16 regular season games in the NFL season. There are 82 regular season hockey games in the NHL. That's fighting talk, there, Missy.

TOTALLY kidding


Cashmere - Aug 22, 2007 9:00:49 am PDT #6188 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Back in the day baseball players were these squeaky-clean saints and fans ate it up.

Ty Cobb
Babe Ruth
Mickey Mantle
Pete Rose

IJS.

TOTALLY kidding

I totally got it. Next fauxfuffle: Canadian vs. American beer.


Trudy Booth - Aug 22, 2007 9:03:11 am PDT #6189 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

They weren't ACTUALLY saints, they were promoted and received as such.

The "wholesome" thing was largely a veneer -- but a lot of money was made off of it.


Gudanov - Aug 22, 2007 9:03:25 am PDT #6190 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

There is also a 53 man roster on each team for 32 teams which is nearly 1,700 players. So if you have, say 51 guys, getting in trouble that still leaves 97% who aren't. But it sounds like a bigger number.


tommyrot - Aug 22, 2007 9:03:43 am PDT #6191 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Next fauxfuffle: Canadian vs. American beer.

That's simple - American beer isn't actually beer.


beekaytee - Aug 22, 2007 9:04:05 am PDT #6192 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

Sports have always been that way, though, haven't they? If not money, then fame and glory comes along with the spotlight of popularity.

Yes, it's true. And does nothing to make me less ashamed of my kind. But, there you go.

The shining images of many a cultural figure...whether early sports or the Hollywood studio system...mostly manufactured. But I cling to the few...the proud...the seemingly noble. The fact that I can't think of the names of the few that I know about means I need to go soak my head.


§ ita § - Aug 22, 2007 9:04:44 am PDT #6193 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I can't think of the names of the few that I know

Arthur Ashe.