Spike: At least give me Wesley's office since he's gone. Angel: He's not gone. He's on a leave of absence. Spike: Yeah, right. Boo-hoo. Thought he killed his bloody father. Try staking your mother when she's coming on to you! Harmony: Well…that explains a lot.

'Destiny'


Natter 53: We could just avoid making tortured puns  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Dana - Aug 22, 2007 7:42:16 am PDT #6126 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

CNN has some additional quotes from the NAACP guy:

White also said he didn't understand the uproar over dogfighting, when hunting deer and other animals is perfectly acceptable.

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Nutty! Is that "tu quoque"? Have I learned the correct Latin at your knee?


Aims - Aug 22, 2007 7:43:21 am PDT #6127 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

White also said he didn't understand the uproar over dogfighting, when hunting deer and other animals is perfectly acceptable.

While I like neither, one is actually, ya know, fucking LEGAL.


Dana - Aug 22, 2007 7:46:03 am PDT #6128 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

While I like neither, one is actually, ya know, fucking LEGAL.

Right. I'm also not a huge fan of hunting, but at least some of the time, it provides *food* for people. As opposed to dog-fighting, which provides cheap and cruel thrills for assholes.


Aims - Aug 22, 2007 7:47:43 am PDT #6129 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

provides cheap and cruel thrills

Which can be more easily attained by watching America's Got Talent.


brenda m - Aug 22, 2007 7:48:06 am PDT #6130 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Contemporary reporting on the NFL's response to Carruth.

The NFL has had to police the recent outbreak of unnecessary roughness and late hits that threaten to maim players. But many of the league's players are now doing their maiming off the field. Jeff Benedict and Don Yeager's new book, Pros and Cons: The Criminals Who Play in the NFL, lists the league's known felons. Here's just a smattering: Cornelius Bennett (rape and sexual assault); Cortez Kennedy (domestic violence); Andre Rison (aggravated assault); Deion Sanders (aggravated assault and battery). Since 1997, law-enforcement officials have arrested more than 100 of the NFL's 2,000 or so players—average salary $600,000—for violent crimes.

Like O. J. Simpson before them, two of the league's current star players are now up on murder charges: Rae Carruth, wide receiver for the Carolina Panthers, for allegedly masterminding the fatal drive-by shooting of his pregnant girlfriend; and Ray Lewis, all-pro linebacker for the Baltimore Ravens, for allegedly stabbing to death two men outside an Atlanta bar with the help of two accomplices. The league's response? "We have fewer incidents involving NFL players than society at large has," NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue tepidly observes in response to the two crimes. The league needs to answer why they hire individuals prone to commit violent felonies in the first place.


beekaytee - Aug 22, 2007 7:48:30 am PDT #6131 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

Right. I'm also not a huge fan of hunting, but at least some of the time, it provides *food* for people. As opposed to dog-fighting, which provides cheap and cruel thrills for assholes.

This is me.

I'm wondering what stake the NAACP has in the NFL that somebody thought it was a good idea to have White comment on this case.


Gudanov - Aug 22, 2007 7:48:43 am PDT #6132 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

America's Got Talent is a dogfighting show?


Aims - Aug 22, 2007 7:49:21 am PDT #6133 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

America's Got Talent is a dogfighting show?

It sometimes feels like it.


Susan W. - Aug 22, 2007 7:50:34 am PDT #6134 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

And there's just this TINY difference that hunting doesn't involve torturing the animals.

(FWIW, in some ways I'm more comfortable with eating the venison from my brother and nephew's deer hunting than with ordinary beef, pork, and chicken from the grocery store, because I figure the deer lived a natural and happy life until David or Eric shot it, unlike the factory-farmed animal.)


beekaytee - Aug 22, 2007 7:50:35 am PDT #6135 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

"We have fewer incidents involving NFL players than society at large has,"

Oh. Well. That makes it okay.