Well, lady, I must say-- You're my kinda stupid.

Mal ,'Heart Of Gold'


Natter 53: We could just avoid making tortured puns  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


P.M. Marc - Aug 14, 2007 10:22:55 am PDT #4629 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Oh goodness. I am bemused and terrified at the notion of what sort of trouble you people would arrange for us.

It would RULE. C'mon, you know it would!


Atropa - Aug 14, 2007 10:23:45 am PDT #4630 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

It would RULE. C'mon, you know it would!

Oh, I have NO doubt that it would. That doesn't stop me from being slightly terrified.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 14, 2007 10:26:49 am PDT #4631 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I was a bit flabbergasted that my company's 401K plan returned something like 13 1/2% on its stocks last year—I hadn't been aware that the market was doing that well, aside from oil companies. Though the plunges of the last few days probably mean 2007 won't look nearly so rosy.


Zenkitty - Aug 14, 2007 10:27:58 am PDT #4632 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Susan, I was in much the same position. After the horrific demise of a long-term relationship in my early 30s, I was left with no house, no job, no car, no savings, and enormous debt. It took more than a decade to pay it off. I'm still not where I think I should be - or want to be - financially at 44. Late last year, after I paid off my car, I took a look at what debt remained and realized I could afford to draw off enough from my 401k to pay it all off. I dithered over it, because that's a huge decision, but I am so very glad I did it. The repayment has barely been noticeable out of my paycheck, and the relief of that burden I'd been carrying around for 13 years made a huge difference in my emotional state. It was well worth the hit to my 401k. (The clincher of the decision was when a friend said, You could die before you're 62, and what would you have been saving it all for, then? Be happy now.)

I paid the car off before some credit card debt because I was haunted by the memory of having my car repossessed. Now I want to always have a car they can't take away.


tommyrot - Aug 14, 2007 10:30:22 am PDT #4633 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Appropo of nothing, there is a school bus across the street that's been booted.

How does that happen?


Vortex - Aug 14, 2007 10:30:26 am PDT #4634 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Argh. ISA strikes again. I told him to make me some hotel reservations using Starwood Preferred Guest. I gave him the Starwood phone number, my SPG number and included dates of the reservation and the phone numbers of the hotels to make sure that he had the right one. I'm sure that you see what's coming, right? Yes, he called the hotels individually. Of course, they all wanted a credit card, which is not necessary if you call Starwood and use the SPG number. *sigh* Thank god tomorrow is his last day.


JZ - Aug 14, 2007 10:30:36 am PDT #4635 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

My married friends never had any(and in fact, one married the same guy twice and didn't even ask me to either wedding.)

Humph. With two weddings to the same guy she certainly qualifies as married, but the "friend" designation seems a bit more doubtful. But possibly she has other fine qualities to make up for it.

A giant bachelorette party co-hosted by Vortex and Matt sounds BRILLIANT. As long as erika attends and gets a lapdance.

Also, how are you doing generally? I heard a wretched report on NPR this morning all about how insanely hot Phoenix is this year and how it's such a badly designed city that it's actually creating more heat for itself and people are keeling over everywhere and it's just awful. And I thought of you and your mom and pup and got all worried. Do we need to start sending you fans and iced drinks and cabana boys waving giant palm fronds?


Vortex - Aug 14, 2007 10:32:32 am PDT #4636 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

A giant bachelorette party co-hosted by Vortex and Matt sounds BRILLIANT. As long as erika attends and gets a lapdance.

she gets the first one. Of course, there will be multiple strippers, so she gets first pick.


Gudanov - Aug 14, 2007 10:35:20 am PDT #4637 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

I don't know. I just wish I could go back in time and undo every stupid financial decision and frivolous purchase we've made in the past 8 years so we wouldn't be in this idiotic bind. We make too much money to be this poor.

Don't beat yourself up over it, the past is past. If y'all are worried about a market downturn in the next few years you could look at a 401k loan (after the rolling over settles down) at a longer term to pay off some shorter term debt. If the market does downturn, you are buying stock low with your loan payments and your 401k is earning interest at your loan's interest rate. The downside are fees (although this should be very little compared to saved interest), opportunity cost if the market goes gangbusters after taking out the loan, and tax consequences in the event of job loss (depends on the plan, this may not be an issue) or loan default. The upside is that you are paying interest to yourself and you might be able to restructure to lower payments over a longer term for some of your debts and better attack other debt where the interest isn't going to yourself. Just a thought.

Edit: Or what Zenkitty said.


juliana - Aug 14, 2007 10:43:21 am PDT #4638 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Oh goodness. I am bemused and terrified at the notion of what sort of trouble you people would arrange for us.

It would RULE. C'mon, you know it would!

It would so TOTALLY rule. Let's do it!