Natter 53: We could just avoid making tortured puns
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
I think people are assuming (4) he wants to make more money to make his income remarkable for his area.
What I got from that quote, and I did go back and read the whole article for context, is not that he's unhappy with the money, he's unhappy with the social status. That's what "nobody" means to me. Obviously, the one is tied to the other, but I don't see him complaining about costs.
Oh, and I don't mean to say that I think people here actually think I'm an asshole. I mean, maybe you do, but I don't mean to say that it's apparent. Just that what we know about Kremen is also true about me. Except for the $10MM.
ETA: as in, I don't mean to make this a whole negative thing where people are insulted or anything. I think the discussion of class and wealth here is interesting.
Gas prices here (North Florida) have come down recently. The cheap place by my work was $2.65 for regular unleaded yesterday, the most expensive (according to Gas Buddy) is $2.91 for regular unleaded.
Yeah, still not getting it. So it's a bad thing to work hard to become rich now?
Did I say that? (No, I didn't!) Pound yourself into the ground to become richer all you want. Just don't come crying to me if becoming richer makes you paranoid about not being rich enough. Guy being rich does not making him an asshole. Guy being rich and
complaining about it
is what makes him an asshole.
Also, okay, what are people's gas prices right now?
I filled up for $2.71/gal at an independent place in the Boston area the other day. I know Connecticut puts something like $0.30 state taxes on top of whatever a gallon costs, or they used to. (I don't actually know what Mass state tax is built in per gallon, but it's less than CT.)
I was able to fill up on Regular for $2.69 yesterday at the known cheap gas place in Cambridge, but on the ride down through CT and NY, we saw prices as high as $3.29 for Regular!
What I got from that quote, and I did go back and read the whole article for context, is not that he's unhappy with the money, he's unhappy with the social status. That's what "nobody" means to me. Obviously, the one is tied to the other, but I don't see him complaining about costs.
I am assuming that the guy has some perspective-- after all, as we talk here, we don't have to keep referring to the fact that in the third world we are very, very rich. So as I read it when he says he's a nobody in Silicon Valley, it doesn't mean he doesn't know that that's a lot of money anywhere else. It's just not a lot where he lives.
it doesn't mean he doesn't know that that's a lot of money anywhere else. It's just not a lot where he lives.
Sure. But that's not the quote. The quote is "You’re nobody here at $10 million." Of course the reporter pulled that out of everything else this guy said, so it's hard to know whether he's got as little perspective as he seems to.
Sure. But that's not the quote. The quote is "You’re nobody here at $10 million."
Right. I don't care about being somebody. I care about one day being able to buy a home, any home, in this city.
Yeah, still not getting it. So it's a bad thing to work hard to become rich now?
Did I say that? (No, I didn't!) Pound yourself into the ground to become richer all you want. Just don't come crying to me if becoming richer makes you paranoid about not being rich enough. Guy being rich does not making him an asshole. Guy being rich and complaining about it is what makes him an asshole.
He *doesn't* complain. He says he is working harder to get richer, and that he is not as rich as the other people in Silicon Valley. You are inferring that the two are causally related.
ION, Fred Phelps Is Coming
The Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kan., plans to stage protests at funerals of victims of the 35W bridge collapse to state that God made the bridge fall because he hates America, and especially Minnesota, because of its tolerance of homosexuality.
The church and its pastor, the Rev. Fred Phelps, have become notorious over recent years for their claim that the attack of 9/11 was an act of God's vengeance and their determination to make that case at the funerals of U.S. soldiers who died in Iraq.
In a press release issued the day after the bridge collapse, the church called for protests at the funerals and outlined its feelings about the relationship between God's plan and the sins of Minneapolis and Minnesota, which it calls the "land of the Sodomite damned."
Reached at the church, Shirley Phelps Roper, who is both the daughter of the pastor and one of the attorneys for the church, said that America, and Minnesota especially, have alienated God by its tolerance for homosexuality, and that the bridge collapse was an act of God's vengeance.
At this point this is just too goofy for me to get angry. Of course, if he was protesting at a funeral of a loved one, I might feel differently.