Hey, evil dead, you're in my seat.

Xander ,'First Date'


Natter 53: We could just avoid making tortured puns  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Aug 07, 2007 7:46:53 am PDT #2993 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I like stuff. I can afford stuff. So I buy stuff. I have some desire for a karmic payback to the world, but I'm slacker about it than I should be. Luckily, though, my love of krav and teaching does make it feel like I'm giving something to people (and in theory this job is public sector and benefits the community--but I'd be a hypocrite and a liar to even imply that was a deciding factor in taking it).

What do I deeply want that I can't afford? A house. As long as I live here, and am single, I won't be able to afford one. Otherwise I'm doing okay, and would like to shrug off the guilt that I shouldn't let people know I'm on my fourth iPod or anything.

However, I'm not in a game where other people's salaries matter to me very much, and that's why I look askance at some of these poor litle rich boys.


Aims - Aug 07, 2007 7:50:17 am PDT #2994 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I went from doing fairly well for myself in Michigan to barely breaking even in Chicago. Sometimes I miss my old disposable income, but not enough to go back.

Let me tell you of moving from LA to Michigan.

I expected Joe and I to take paycuts. I didn't expect a $23,000 per year combined paycut.

I expected housing costs to be lower or about the same. I didn't expect everything else to be more expensive. So it's going to be very interesting the next couple of years.


megan walker - Aug 07, 2007 7:51:57 am PDT #2995 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I think the revelation about wealth came to me at a swanky hotel once. I was all, sure, everything in here is more expensive, but it's not altogether nicer.

You remind me of when I was travelling through Europe after my semester abroad. I had saved up for forever for the trip and spent the last three weeks with a friend staying in cheap B&Bs. Just before we finished up in Switzerland, my friend realized she had forgotten about some extra “spending money” her grandmother had given her--$1000, which was more than my whole budget for the summer (after the Eurorail pass)! Since Switzerland was known for its hotel service, we blew it on a fabulous place for the last 3 nights in Geneva. I think it took a lot for her to do so, but the last morning at breakfast, my friend just looked at me and said “the B&Bs were better; thanks for making me stay in them.”


Sue - Aug 07, 2007 7:52:19 am PDT #2996 of 10001
hip deep in pie

While I am not wealthy, I don't want for anything either. (except for that lady of leisure lifestyle I should have been born into.)

What I'm dismayed at is that someone coined the term "Hangry" and it wasn't me! Of course, I google hangry and erinaceous is there. [link]

ETA: It's been around since 1999! How could I not know?


Nutty - Aug 07, 2007 7:53:38 am PDT #2997 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Why is Kremen an asshole?

1. Because he's pounding himself into the ground to move from the top 0.5% to the top 0.4%. And doesn't sound happy about that fact, but can't think his way out of a paper bag the social-status pursuit he's in.

2. Because when your diamond shoes are too tight, it's asshole behavior to talk about it to the New York Times.


bon bon - Aug 07, 2007 7:55:24 am PDT #2998 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I am sending that hangry link to Bob Bob, who puts up with a lot of that from me.


Dana - Aug 07, 2007 7:56:01 am PDT #2999 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

"Hangry" is brilliant.


shrift - Aug 07, 2007 7:56:07 am PDT #3000 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I expected housing costs to be lower or about the same. I didn't expect everything else to be more expensive.

Yow, Aimee. That sucks and makes no sense. What's more expensive in Michigan than in LA?


Theodosia - Aug 07, 2007 7:57:41 am PDT #3001 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I feel somewhat ashamed that I've 'made' more in severance benefits than some people I know will make all year, and my Unemployment payments will also be more than some people take home per month. On the other hand, I actually have worked hard to get to my professional level of employment, and actually live pretty frugally, considering.

FWIW, researchers have coined 'hedonic treadmill' to describe the illusion of chasing a hardwork carrot at the end of a stick in order to gain happiness.


juliana - Aug 07, 2007 7:58:14 am PDT #3002 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

While I am not wealthy, I don't want for anything either. (except for that lady of leisure lifestyle I should have been born into.)

This. I'd like to get rid of my student loan debt, but I can eat and buy a toy and travel on occasion. I'm doing pretty well.

I think what bugs about that NYT article is how everyone has bought into that idea of the Silicon Valley "lifestyle" and keeping up with the Joneses. These are people who are in the top percentile of the world's wealth, and they're still complaining about their lot. Granted - the article is probably edited to make them seem more shallow than they are, but still. I'm not denying their accomplishments or their work ethic, but it just seems... disingenuous(?) to complain.

EDIT: Or, what Nutty said.