So that's my dream. That and some stuff about cigars and a tunnel.

Faith ,'Get It Done'


Natter 53: We could just avoid making tortured puns  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Aug 02, 2007 7:43:05 am PDT #1861 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

It's getting long enough that I'm losing my curl, man.

A round of haircuts for my friends.

I think you might just cry when you see me.


Liese S. - Aug 02, 2007 7:43:44 am PDT #1862 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I see where they're going with the story, but this line in the article irritated me.

"Now companies are starting to clamp down a little bit. They've found women have a tendency to show off too much skin, and men tend to show up in clothes that are wrinkled and not ironed."

I'm probably oversensitive. But still, irritating.

Anyway, I am ND in this. Today's work clothing is camo zip-off cargo pants (with big pockets for gear), a black baby-T with the name of a punk band in big white letters, and black Doc Marten boots. Thank goodness for jobs without dress codes.

Although, funnily enough, I will no longer fit in wearing these clothes, because my students now have a school dress code. So I will be punkier than thou. Err, than they. Them? Anyway.

Better than wearing skirts & steel toed moccasins to climb the racks for inventory.


Daisy Jane - Aug 02, 2007 7:45:39 am PDT #1863 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I remember reading somewhere a woman's opinion that the dress codes were to prevent the younger women from flaunting body parts that might look better than the same on their female superiors.

Sort of. It's not really to prevent it, so much as punish whichever one is deemed "slutty." Dress codes are usually not specific enough to rule in or out clothing that might be on the line, this means certain v-necks, tight shirts, too short skirts or tight pants. So, who decides how low my v-neck or wrap dress goes? How tight can my shirt be?

I think I have a pretty good handle on how much skin is ok at work. But 30 some odd years of comments about my body can make me second guess myself if someone says something about-especially for 36 D me-my shirt.

For example: I had a work thing to which I wore a Target faux-wrap dress (sewn up the front instead of actual wrap). It's actually 2 sizes larger than I wear, so it's not clingy, had on a camisole type thing under it. A woman complained to my boss because she could see the camisole. So, skin was completely covered, but it apparently scandalized this woman that there might actually be breasts under that dress. I know from several girlfriends and other work experiences that that was not an isolated incident.


lisah - Aug 02, 2007 7:49:25 am PDT #1864 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

People + Fashion = Freaky Ideas

We don't really seem to have a "code" here. It's sort of business casual I guess but a couple of the guys wear dress slacks (UGH HATE THAT WORD!!!), button down shirts & ties. But the main partner dudes wear jeans most days.

I dress the way I did at my old job. Nobody has said a thing to me. And I'd like to see them try!


Sophia Brooks - Aug 02, 2007 7:54:58 am PDT #1865 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I'm always confused by people seem to think that khaki pants are OK for men but too casual for women. Is it the tie? My mother's dress code (at a County Social Services) actually spelled this out. Only she was all confused because it said "Dockers" or Haggar slacks, so she thought it was only those brand names that were allowed.

Where I worked last, there were four of us, two fat and two thin. Only us fatties were asked to never leave our office or open the door without putting on a blazer when wearing a sleeveless shirt.


Scrappy - Aug 02, 2007 7:55:45 am PDT #1866 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Today I have on jeans, Converse low-tops and a '60s print camp shirt. Someone came into my office two seconds ago wearing an "I love New York" baseball shirt, a plaid mini and flip flops. The only people who dress up here are salespeople, poor saps.


Steph L. - Aug 02, 2007 7:56:12 am PDT #1867 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I remember reading somewhere a woman's opinion that the dress codes were to prevent the younger women from flaunting body parts that might look better than the same on their female superiors.

Sort of. It's not really to prevent it, so much as punish whichever one is deemed "slutty." Dress codes are usually not specific enough to rule in or out clothing that might be on the line, this means certain v-necks, tight shirts, too short skirts or tight pants. So, who decides how low my v-neck or wrap dress goes? How tight can my shirt be?

This is like the high-school prom in Louisiana where students were turned away at the door because a teacher decided that they were showing too much cleavage: [link] There's a slideshow of pictures with that story, and I gotta say, it looks to me like the girls were being punished for the crime of having breasts while wearing prom dresses that had a neckline lower than a turtleneck.

Shit like that pisses me off.


SuziQ - Aug 02, 2007 7:57:02 am PDT #1868 of 10001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

I work for an engineering consulting company and they are pretty relaxed about dress code in my office. If you show up in a suit, folks think you must have a client interview. It is one of the things that keeps me here. Were I to change jobs, I'd probably need a nicer wardrobe.


Daisy Jane - Aug 02, 2007 7:58:16 am PDT #1869 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Also, that outfit (again with a jacket and dress shoes-now I'm thinking flats would be cuter) would not look amiss on an account executive at a boutique agency like the one where I worked, or on a professional in one of the more creative fields (again, I can only speak for here).

But dress codes also hit larger women, poor women, women who prefer to be more utilitarian than decorative in their attire.

Feh.


brenda m - Aug 02, 2007 8:00:55 am PDT #1870 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

If she was booted out of meetings, I'm guessing the outfit in the picture was the least of it.