I love the term " squishy enthusiasm"!
These girls have the most beautiful dresses. And so do I -- how about that?
Kaylee ,'Shindig'
Natter 53: We could just avoid making tortured puns
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
sumi - Jul 30, 2007 1:10:47 pm PDT #1094 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!
Kathy A - Jul 30, 2007 1:16:44 pm PDT #1095 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil
JZ, I must have missed that article you're quoting--where can I read that?
NoiseDesign - Jul 30, 2007 1:17:09 pm PDT #1096 of 10001
Our wings are not tired
I've been online since 1983. Anyone remember Fidonet?
§ ita § - Jul 30, 2007 1:18:01 pm PDT #1097 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Does anyone have a trusted source of online vitamins? I need to take about 400mg of B2 per day, and I can only find that in one place nearby. Mail order would be simpler.
Hmm. Is it mail order because you mail your order or because they mail you what you ordered? I guess it's enough of a grey area that it's not a rapid anachronism like "hang up."
tommyrot - Jul 30, 2007 1:19:11 pm PDT #1098 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
I've been online since 1983. Anyone remember Fidonet?
I was on BBSs that were a part of Fidonet, but I don't think I ever used it myself.
§ ita § - Jul 30, 2007 1:19:27 pm PDT #1099 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Anyone remember Fidonet?
Yes! Though I only got on it to get to the Internet. I got online in '87, but I didn't quite realise I was online.
Uh, not that I thought all those other people were in the next room or anything. I just never thought of "online" as a thing.
amych - Jul 30, 2007 1:22:11 pm PDT #1100 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
I remember knowing of fidonet, mostly. Y'all are old.
Allyson - Jul 30, 2007 1:22:43 pm PDT #1101 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
I sincerely expected criticism about my writing, and some of me as a human (like being described as needy or whiny or a variety of issues I'll cop to...and the reviewer does describe me in those terms which I'm cool with), but I weirdly never expected the subject matter to be criticized as obsolete/archaic.
I'm also sort of floored by the amount of criticism I've seen about the book, by people who haven't read the book.
tommyrot - Jul 30, 2007 1:23:45 pm PDT #1102 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
Uh, not that I thought all those other people were in the next room or anything. I just never thought of "online" as a thing.
One of the first BBSs I was on was The Well. I remember being a little amazed, thinking, "My computer is connected to a computer in San Francisco. I'm using my computer to communicate with other computer users, most of whom are 2000 miles away."
This was in 1991.
JZ - Jul 30, 2007 1:26:04 pm PDT #1103 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
I love the term " squishy enthusiasm"!
The whole not-explicitly-articulated-but-still-vaguely-present air of "My fandom is respectable because we're all just madly cerebrating brains in jars!" thing bugged me. Not least because one of the points of the book is that media fannishness isn't really any weirder than, say, sports fannishness. In the eyes of much of the country, Suzi is a dedicated fan and an awesome delightful person (and the girl that many season ticket holders dream of) because she wears a green and yellow wig to A's games and paints her nails green and yellow during the baseball season, but if she went to meet a bunch of us dressed in, say, a prom dress and a black leather jacket and carrying a pointy piece of wood she'd be a wretched loser? Why is one fannishness applauded and beloved and All American and the other punched in the gut and shoved into lockers? Even (just a little) by other fans of the very same media?
I mean, I do understand why, but it bugs me when someone in the fandom (and she is, whether or not she wants to cop to it) tries to make that "Oh, I'm a fan, but not THAT KIND of fan" distinction. It's all very Jane Austen and the heroine of a novel saying shamefacedly, "Oh, it is only a novel!" Who's gonna stick up for fandom if even fandom is embarrassed by fandom?
Except, you know, the k*tt*ns and the Spuffists. They're totally craxy.