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Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


sumi - Oct 21, 2008 12:18:07 pm PDT #9083 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

Interview with JPAD - cameo appearance by JDM.

Non-spoilery.


P.M. Marc - Oct 21, 2008 2:08:47 pm PDT #9084 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Well, the motivations might have been somewhat different, but not the catalyst. I was impressed that Drac's manipulative speech called back to the idea of shifters being outcasts.

1 & 3 fit that. Shifter 2 is more of a mystery shifter. Except that we know shifter 2 liked the money.

Which, you know, now I'm thinking of the shifter-as-symbol in the show, and the way that's... shifted, if you will. Our first one we have as a mirror of Dean (through his own eyes, or through Sam's? I need to work on this one and flesh it out--when I lost my EXTENSIVE Wendigo notes, I was disheartened and pouty and didn't get back on my planned episode-by-episode analysis of Monster-as-Mirror, which, okay, fine, means I only ever did the pilot, but, whatever--you could argue that the shifter in Skin is meant to reflect some of Sam's more negative views of his brother and their upbringing and insert the rest of the thought that I'm having problems articulating here), the third is the monster as the outsider (VICTOR!!!) POV of the Winchesters, a duplicitous monster, a thief, a murderer, brutal and without a readily apparent motivation (I could probably have more here, but then I get distracted by my favorite dead FBI guy and get sad). The third we see as a mirror of Sam and the path Sam may or may not be on, depending on who you believe. Tellingly, Jamie basically calls him on the part where, yes, there were external factors, but ultimately, he the shifter was the one who was choosing to do wrong, bringing us back to that whole notion of choice and responsibility for actions that we've seen bubbling up around Sam.

Err. Sorry for the raw notes here.


Theresa - Oct 21, 2008 3:48:39 pm PDT #9085 of 10002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

Interview with JPAD - cameo appearance by JDM.

Okay, a couple things. 1) why does JP look so hot in the interview? Damn, I might choose him over JA there. 2) Is it really bad that I watched the JDM and JP hug four or five times, because it was like getting John hugging Sam? "Dad." Oh JDM.

Err. Sorry for the raw notes here.

Never apologize for giving us awesome things to read. :)


Theresa - Oct 22, 2008 3:20:41 pm PDT #9086 of 10002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

Has it been one or two weeks without Castiel? Feels like thirty.

I'm hoping with all the press and positive response that Misha got, Kripke will be trying to write him in more episodes. Well, that didn't work out so well for Ellen, but I can still hope.

I should never have seen that JP interview because now I want more John.

eta: It's terrible but in the SPN fandom, I feel the need to preface my opinion on a female character. I liked the actress from the 4400 with Dean, I liked Lisa with Dean (and I still believe she is the mother of his child), I LOVED beyond reason Carmen with Dean, but I am not feeling any love for Jamie. The only time her character didn't annoy me was when she saved herself. I guess she isn't bad, I just didn't find her likeable. And none of this really matters except to say, I'm over in the other camp, not loving Jamie. I like the name. :shrug:


Beverly - Oct 22, 2008 4:17:02 pm PDT #9087 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

This vid premiered at WinCon, I believe. It's a thumbnail of, a lovenote to, and a snort of self-derision at SPN fandom, and it's fabulous. I'm posting a link to the vidders LJ just so you can take a look at the bibliography of works she included in the vid.

There's a link at her LJ--or here--to YouTube, it's best watched in high quality.

Also, I was in the room when StY was watching a TiFauxed ep of CSI: Miami last night. The new med examiner is played by the actress who played Cassie, and the actress who played Nancy in Jus in Bello was in the ep as well. One Miami ep, two ex-Dean girls. Well, Nancy *would* have been an ex-Dean girl, given the chance.


Topic!Cindy - Oct 22, 2008 4:18:00 pm PDT #9088 of 10002
What is even happening?

It's only been one week without Castiel. It does feel like 30, though.

Who was the actress from the 4400?


Beverly - Oct 22, 2008 4:23:58 pm PDT #9089 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Sam Ferris. They're working on getting her back for more than one ep this season. It's a matter of giving her time to find and do other work, and not having her commit months ahead to a single episode.

I like Castiel well enough. I just don't want it to become the Dean's Angel show, nor the Sam's little devil doll show. I still think Dean and Carmen were hotter than the surface of the sun. I think Lisa is a pale substitute for Carmen. I want Dean and Ellen hotness on screen, but Kripke has decreed, "Never!"

I loved Jamie for exactly what she was. Jamie was a healthy romp, and she didn't expect it to be anything else. And she kicked ass all on her own. I like that.

ETA: Kripke and Sam are much like Joss and William. Mary was played by Samantha Smith, Ellen by Samantha Ferris, and then of course there's Sam.


tiggy - Oct 22, 2008 4:29:52 pm PDT #9090 of 10002
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

but I am not feeling any love for Jamie

aww...really? i kinda loved her and her snark.

Who was the actress from the 4400?

Cassie who was Isabelle on the 4400.


Beverly - Oct 22, 2008 4:34:43 pm PDT #9091 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I didn't realize Megalyn Echikunwoke (Cassie) was on The 4400. Samantha Ferris played Nina Jarvis on The 4400.


Amy - Oct 22, 2008 4:36:19 pm PDT #9092 of 10002
Because books.

I liked Jamie a lot. She was game, she was brave, and she didn't expect to fall in true lurve. I also liked seeing Dean with her before Lucy came into the bar -- it's not all lines and cocked eyebrows. He *talked* to her.