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Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business  

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Ailleann - Oct 10, 2008 4:51:12 am PDT #8618 of 10002
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I think if Ruby's doing anything to undermine what Sam's trying to do, comes the revolution, she'll be the first against the wall on her way back to Hell.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 10, 2008 6:03:52 am PDT #8619 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Latin works, too. Especially when they're all tied up and can't do anything anyway.

This was my thought. Has Sam forgotten that he used exorcisms, not demonic-granted abilities, to save all those possessed people in "Jus in Bello"? I guess his method could be more practical if it incapacitates strong demons and keeps them from flinging him around psychokinetically when he's going solo, but it's not the only non-lethal option.

The fact that Sam's said repeatedly that using his power "feels good" makes me suspicious that it's having a drug-like conditioning effect on him, which the Roman Ritual of Exorcism clearly doesn't. If he gets to the point where he needs to feel that rush and there aren't any demons handy, what other sorts of magic might he be willing to use in pursuit of a fix?


SuziQ - Oct 10, 2008 6:13:28 am PDT #8620 of 10002
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

I have not rewatched, but didn't Ruby ask him if his headache was better post-exorcism. As if using his powers minimized the pain.


Polter-Cow - Oct 10, 2008 6:14:54 am PDT #8621 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I thought she was asking because he normally got a headache when using his powers, but since he was getting better at it, he wasn't anymore. But I don't think he got a headache in the premiere, and he's been doing this for a while, so your take makes more sense. Hmm.


sumi - Oct 10, 2008 6:17:31 am PDT #8622 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

oh, yeah.

Did he get post-vision headaches? (I may be confusing Sam with Cordy. . . which would be some sort of first.)


Consuela - Oct 10, 2008 6:20:59 am PDT #8623 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

There's a certain amount of fanon, but certainly the visions came with crippling headaches.

I admit I'm getting a queasy feeling of Magic Addiction here, and we know how well that worked on Buffy.


P.M. Marc - Oct 10, 2008 6:26:18 am PDT #8624 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I think it would play better on SPN, though. More set up, less ass pull.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 10, 2008 6:35:25 am PDT #8625 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

And a clearly malevolent origin for the specific powers having the effect, which makes more sense for them addictive and corrupting.


tiggy - Oct 10, 2008 6:40:56 am PDT #8626 of 10002
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

I'm with P-C. i thought using his powers gave him a headache and since he seems to have pretty much perfected that one his headaches weren't as bad.

his visions used to give him headaches back in seasons one and two,


Polter-Cow - Oct 10, 2008 6:41:57 am PDT #8627 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Also, I think it would be kind of interesting to see Sam essentially addicted to helping people.