Why can't Castiel be lying, or a lone rangel, or you know, evil?

He's wearing a trenchcoat, but no leather pants, so I have to go with formerly evil looking for redemption.

That was fun. I knew I was being manipulated at the time, but I still cried with Mary and Dean. AIFG! I thought he should have said his name was Calvin since they had already nodded to "Back to the Future", but I am glad they avoided any romantic tension. Mary was completely in love with John. :sigh: Greek tragedy all the way, baby.

Mary made a deal, John made a deal, and Dean made a deal. Sammy has some catching up to do. Also I am wondering, if Mary wanted a "normal" life without hunting and created that life in Lawrence, and Ma and Pa Campbell are dead, then did she ever tell John she was a hunter? Is that something he never knew? Did he run across hunters later that might have told him? Did she ever tell John that she had made a deal to bring him back? She wouldn't have had to and we know from the boys that thinking up plausible stories to explain the deaths on the spot is second nature to hunters. Was John more fucked up knowing that he was the reason (in a way) that Mary was killed?

I flailed and squeed and fan-girled myself out. But I am left with a question and I feel like the biggest dork for missing this, but if Castiel said Dean couldn't change anything, then why did he send him into the past to "stop it." I'm caught in a loop and I can't get out. Where did I miss in the episode why this made sense?

He's wearing a trenchcoat, but no leather pants, so I have to go with formerly evil looking for redemption.

Ha!

I think that was a misperception on Dean's part. I don't think Dean was supposed to stop the events in the past happening; I think he's supposed to stop Sam from trippin' down the primruby path to Hell.

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Also, He's wearing a trenchcoat, but no leather pants, so I have to go with formerly evil looking for redemption

Heh.

I think that was a misperception on Dean's part.

That makes sense. Thanks!

Yep, Austin. Castiel told Dean that he had to stop "it" again after explaining about Sam. Why he couldn't have been more direct originally, the world may never know.

He intended to be misunderstood. Dean's fated to fail attempt to save his parents drove home the object lesson. And demonstrated once again that Castiel is a badass.

Why he couldn't have been more direct originally, the world may never know.

I'm thankful he wasn't more clear if it was a means to show the events in this episode. I am still taking it in. It blows my mind to think of Mary as the hunter and John as the civilian.

a lone rangel

Ah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!. I love that.

Also I am wondering, if Mary wanted a "normal" life without hunting and created that life in Lawrence, and Ma and Pa Campbell are dead, then did she ever tell John she was a hunter? Is that something he never knew?

this is where i currently am. or is it kind of like The Mentalist and Mary kept a diary(that didn't get burned up in the fire)that talked about her life as a hunter and what she'd done.

this storyline is really well done. i'm kind of bowing to the master. never in a million years would i have thought Kripke would pull Mary being a hunter on us.

I mean, Azazel was impressed by Dean's connections. I don't think Sam has enough power -- or evil chutzpah -- to randomly kick Castiel's ass because he doesn't like what he has to say.

Oops. I only posted a half-thought, there. That's what I get for posting when I'm hungry. Anyhow, what I meant to go on and say is that perhaps the angel's "smite first, ask questions later" rep has less to do with their being by-the-rule types than it does about the simple natural consequences of what happens when an angel and a demon encounter one another. Perhaps what happened to the demons in the diner was simply a by-product of what happened when Castiel passed through.