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Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business  

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askye - Aug 04, 2007 1:43:32 pm PDT #777 of 10002
Thrive to spite them

I definitely think Dean finished high school, mainly because I'm sure John wouldn't have given him an option. I can see Dean arguing about it, saying he doesn't need to learn this stuff if he's going to hunt but John putting his foot down. Or even invoking Mary to convince Dean, "It's what your mother would have wanted." There's no way I can see Dean going against that.


Anne W. - Aug 04, 2007 1:46:13 pm PDT #778 of 10002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Or even invoking Mary to convince Dean, "It's what your mother would have wanted." There's no way I can see Dean going against that.

In that family, that would have been the neutron bomb of conversation enders, I think.


Nutty - Aug 04, 2007 2:26:46 pm PDT #779 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Talk about your bulletproof guilt-trip material!

Although, now that I say that, it seems odd that the people Sam and Dean have gone to or thought of for help (Joshua, Caleb, Pastor Jim, Bobby) have all been men.

Well, I think that's an artifact of Stupid White Man Syndrome, i.e. the first season's problematic writing; but I would also call it an artifact of road life. Men are much more likely to be mobile, in our society: as migrant labor, as truck drivers, as fugitives. As far as we know, all of the men on that list are also childless, which makes them even more potentially mobile. That John managed to be mobile, and still raise children who know ketchup is not a vegetable, is a miracle of amazing parenting skills, or of optimistic TV writing.


Theresa - Aug 04, 2007 5:03:44 pm PDT #780 of 10002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

Or even invoking Mary to convince Dean, "It's what your mother would have wanted." There's no way I can see Dean going against that.

In that family, that would have been the neutron bomb of conversation enders, I think.

John: Son, go clean your room.

Dean: I was going to, right after practicing my knife throwing.

John: Now, Dean! It's what your mother would have wanted.

Dean: Shit.

That John managed to be mobile, and still raise children who know ketchup is not a vegetable, is a miracle of amazing parenting skills, or of optimistic TV writing.

Still, there is the issue of giving Sam a gun when Sam was afraid something was in his closet. I don't think Sam viewed John having great parenting skills. I guess I pictured it more like parenting from the school of Sarah Connor.

I also assumed Sam finished high school because of going on to college, but I never assumed Dean did. Sam's reference to Dean paying attention in high school, in Croatoan, was the only reason I thought Dean might have graduated. More likely, I am thinking Dean went until legally required, then on to gambling and pool sharking.


P.M. Marc - Aug 04, 2007 6:59:39 pm PDT #781 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I also assumed Sam finished high school because of going on to college, but I never assumed Dean did. Sam's reference to Dean paying attention in high school, in Croatoan, was the only reason I thought Dean might have graduated. More likely, I am thinking Dean went until legally required, then on to gambling and pool sharking.

I can see Dean graduating. I can also see him, for various reasons (by which I mean, they vary in my head depending on what I'm plotting out), dropping out after he turned 18, and that being one more sort of "I will not be like Dad and Dean. I won't." trigger for Sam.

Dean's far from stupid, but still a likely candidate for high school dropout. And I'm not sure, by that point, all the college money gone to ammo an Dean already in the life, how much it would have really bothered John to have that happen. I mean, by the time Dean was 18, they were over a decade into it.


Amy - Aug 04, 2007 7:44:16 pm PDT #782 of 10002
Because books.

The idea of Dean *in* high school, sitting through geometry or English, is endlessly fascinating to me. I see much pen-nibbling, and drawing pornographic doodles of cheerleaders, and possibly nodding off and drooling.

He's not stupid by any stretch of the imagination, but I can't think of a character less interested in academia. He knew, far too early, the life and death business of the things that lurked in closets and under beds, and there's no way an algebraic equation or the symbolism in The Scarlet Letter could compete with that for brain space. Metal shop, sure, because useful. Possibly art, because hot girls and the chance to zone out a little bit. History very possibly could be interesting, if only to read between the lines to which battlefields might haunted, which events might have had a supernatural basis.

He's simply someone, to me, who always knew where he was going, and probably sat through the traffic and the way stations and the pit stops because he had to, but with his mind always focused on his destination.

I've gotten really interested in all the possibilities of life as a wee!Chester.


Ailleann - Aug 04, 2007 7:51:04 pm PDT #783 of 10002
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

I think Dean's pretty smart, and never had to try very hard to get B average grades in school. Sam's brilliant, and got a huge full ride (but so did I, for one stupid test score), but I feel like he worked to be the best, where Dean would be happy to be average.

Also, if you subscribe (as I do) to the idea that the Winchester boys compliment each other like yin and yang, I bet Dean loves math.

Also, Dean's birthday is January 24th, and most high schools end roughly around late May. Seems a shame to not finish with only four months left.


P.M. Marc - Aug 04, 2007 7:57:59 pm PDT #784 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I think Dean's pretty smart, and never had to try very hard to get B average grades in school. Sam's brilliant, and got a huge full ride (but so did I, for one stupid test score), but I feel like he worked to be the best, where Dean would be happy to be average.

I think his GPA probably depended on his ability to not let black dogs eat his homework.

He strikes me as able to test his way to a C average, and probably got a lot of comments like "not living up to full potential" written up in his permanent record.


Amy - Aug 04, 2007 8:00:33 pm PDT #785 of 10002
Because books.

He strikes me as able to test his way to a C average, and probably got a lot of comments like "not living up to full potential" written up in his permanent record.

This. And back to the "It's what your mother would have wanted" theory -- I think he would have graduated, too.


P.M. Marc - Aug 04, 2007 8:07:11 pm PDT #786 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Oh! In case any of you people who actually DID do you your homework were curious, it is in fact possible to ace every test an still fail a class.

Signed, got into high school on probation, partly due to failing English in Grade 8 for just that reason.

(And I'm unconvinced re: what Mary would have wanted. I don't think John could at all afford to be sentimental like that.)