Buffy: So how'd she get away with the bad mojo stuff? Anya: Giles sold it to her. Giles: Well, I didn't know it was her. I mean, how could I? If it's any consolation, I may have overcharged her.

'Sleeper'


Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 14, 2008 4:49:52 am PDT #7557 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I just pinged on something else that bothered me about Malleus Mallificarum besides the anti-Paganism slant. It made supernatural evil too pedestrian with the whole book club thing, and that made it feel like another show. Charmed, or late-seasons Buffy.

I haven't seen much of Season 1, but my understanding is it was based mostly on urban legends and things that go bump in the night on the outermost fringes of society. Season 2 had a lot of ghosts and the Yellow Eyed Demon arc. I get that the demon war in Season 3 brought a lot more overt occult influence to the world, but at the start it looked like it was going to be a big mythic clash, with the forces of order and reason being overwhelmed by their opposite. The idea of June Cleaver and Harriet Nelson getting together to cast demon-granted spells and then organize bake sales just goes against the tone and makes it harder to take the supernatural seriously.


Anne W. - Jun 14, 2008 5:07:56 am PDT #7558 of 10002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

MM is one of the two episodes I missed this season, and from everything I've heard, I'm regretting this less and less.

Question: I'm racking my brains, but cannot recall--what episode was it where the boys learned that Mary's friends/family had been killed off?


Amy - Jun 14, 2008 5:21:09 am PDT #7559 of 10002
Because books.

That was The Kids Are All Right, the one with mini!Dean. And only Sam learns that, from Ruby -- he never tells Dean, as far as I remember.


sumi - Jun 14, 2008 7:46:51 am PDT #7560 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

Did I link this Ben Edlund/Cathryn Humphries interview?


Anne W. - Jun 14, 2008 8:21:58 am PDT #7561 of 10002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Thanks, Amy!


Beverly - Jun 14, 2008 10:36:49 am PDT #7562 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Matt, I really loved S1, simply because of the nuts-and-bolts approach to "saving people, hunting things, the family business." The hunt for YED was exciting, but I wasn't as enthusiastic about global good vs. Evol war. Honestly, I think the best stories are the intimate ones, with our intrepid heroes interacting with one person, one family, one problem at a time.

The CW okayed a huge budget for the Great War Against the Demons, but then yanked it back after the first or second episode. They saw the strike coming and decided to save every penny they could. They've also reduced the budget for S4 to less than they allowed for S3, after the cut. And I think that's probably a good idea. I don't really want to see a Lucas version of CGI demons clouding the earth's atmosphere in aerial dogfights with Sam's mental powers, or whatever.

It's back to human scale, and I think that's where their forte lies. I do want to take up a collection for the music, though. During my S1 rewatch I was made re-aware of the great music in every ep. We had none in S3. Music rights are the first things cut in a tight budget, and then you start reducing cast and staff. Money was one reason, even more than fan opinion, that Lauren Cohan's character was written out. I don't want to lose our recurring characters--please pay Jim Beaver--and I'd love it if Victor, Ash and Andy got a chance to come back on the side of good, somehow. I'd love to see Ellen, and even Jo, again. But I really really miss the music. It's part of the show's mystique. Mythique? Legend.


sumi - Jun 17, 2008 10:09:20 am PDT #7563 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

CW Source has a podcast for Supernatural.


Beverly - Jun 17, 2008 11:11:44 am PDT #7564 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Woohoo!


Polter-Cow - Jun 17, 2008 11:15:31 am PDT #7565 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Cool!


sumi - Jun 17, 2008 11:20:36 am PDT #7566 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

That's excellent!!!