Someone on my flist has posited that Dean is either in Purgatory or Limbo, rather than actual hell. The anteroom, as it were. The vestibule, the Green Room, from which he may be more easily retrieved than from Actual Hell.
I said I'm sorry. I've made mistakes, but fear was never one of them.
Lilah ,'Conviction (1)'
Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business
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Beverly - May 15, 2008 9:17:17 pm PDT #7436 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
Polter-Cow - May 15, 2008 10:28:51 pm PDT #7437 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Yeah, that vision of Hell was kind of...lame. And sort of topographically nonsensical. I knew they had to give us something more than just "Dean's dead" because everyone expected that part, and it's not really a cliffhanger, per se, since you know Dean is not going to be dead forever, and thus you have to tease the why and the how of bringing him back next season.
The Bon Jovi singalong was great.
That little girl they got was really good and very creepy and now she is going to traumatize her parents for years.
sumi - May 16, 2008 4:49:26 am PDT #7438 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!
Showing Dean in Hell ruined the end of the episode for me.
I think we'll see Ruby again - in a different meat suit (possibly) - which would be one of my wishes for season 4. However, it is totally possible that "Ruby" in Katie Cassidy's body could be back because - wasn't the human dead anyway? Could she be more dead? I mean, the Ruby demon could reinhabit that body, right?
Lee - May 16, 2008 4:52:25 am PDT #7439 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
Showing Dean in Hell ruined the end of the episode for me.
This is where hiding behind the laptop at the first sght of blood comes in Handy. For me, the show ended with Dean calling out for Sam, with no visuals.
tiggy - May 16, 2008 5:08:19 am PDT #7440 of 10002
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
whoa. you must have spent the better part of the season behind your laptop then.
fwiw i'm still a little bit broken about last night. i'm kind of feeling like a whole show marathon.
Lee - May 16, 2008 5:09:59 am PDT #7441 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
you must have spent the better part of the season behind your laptop then.
Yep. Last week involved fingers in the ears too.
Matt the Bruins fan - May 16, 2008 5:34:09 am PDT #7442 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
FWIW, the silent black void that served as Hell in John Carpenter's Prince of Darkness is still the scariest damn depiction I can remember.
Oh yeah, with Lisa Blount jumping through the mirror and then slowly fading into darkness as the light from the gateway flickers and goes out...
There's a similar depiction of damnation in Mimi Rogers' final scene in The Rapture
Pete, Husband of Jilli - May 16, 2008 7:15:40 am PDT #7443 of 10002
"I've got a gun! I've got a mother-flippin' gun!" - Moss, The IT Crowd
Oh yeah, with Lisa Blount jumping through the mirror and then slowly fading into darkness as the light from the gateway flickers and goes out...
Yup. That.
brrrr.
Jen - May 16, 2008 7:37:40 am PDT #7444 of 10002
love's a dream you enter though I shake and shake and shake you
Questions:
Was Lillith possessing Ruby the first instance we've seen of a demon possessing another demon? And post-possession, is Ruby still a demon the way she was before?
If Dean was seeing demons' true faces, was his "hallucination" of Sam's face at the beginning of the ep really a reveal of a demon within Sam struggling to come to the forefront?
Beverly - May 16, 2008 9:45:21 am PDT #7445 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
I'm choosing to think Sam's stretchy-face is a hallucination brought on by the nearness of the hellhounds--it's always been an accompaniment to their approach before. I don't think it signaled Sam was a demon when Dean saw it.
Ruby was possessing the (and keeping alive the probably dead) body of a young woman. My understanding is that Lillith ousted Ruby-demon's "spirit" and sent her far, far away, while Lillith possessed the mortal body.
I'm assumming that Ruby has reverted to the form she had while she was in hell, before she escaped the open gate a year ago and took possession of the hot blond body. She has also probably been sent back to hell, but time will tell on that one.
Also, on rewatch: the cruiser the guys were hiding after Dean killed the demon-ridden cop had numbers painted on the roof. It was car 54.