Now, I can hold a note for a long time...actually I can hold a note forever. But eventually that's just noise. It's the change we're listening for. The note coming after, and the one after that. That's what makes it music.

Host ,'Why We Fight'


Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


juliana - Feb 23, 2008 1:23:17 pm PST #6564 of 10002
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

So far, I'm finding that he's a bit of a combo plate of certain tricksterish attributes.

Pretty much this. He's more Americana Trickster (Anansi, Coyote, Raven) than Loki or Reynard, but there's no one flashing neon sign saying "He is this!!".


Theresa - Feb 23, 2008 2:10:39 pm PST #6565 of 10002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

I know we talked about Trickster being a regular over on Jericho, but was the female demon that got most of the face time in front of the jail, Shoshannah Stern, Bonnie on Jericho? I've watched it a couple times and I can't tell because a) I don't know her that well and b) those demon eyes change people's appearance enough to mess with me.

If it was--cool.


Polter-Cow - Feb 23, 2008 4:46:43 pm PST #6566 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Quick question: Does anyone have any thoughts (or any links to good meta posts) regarding the Trickster? I'm trying to figure out if he maps well onto a specific trickster figure (Coyote, Loki) or if he's just a mish-mash.

So far, I'm finding that he's a bit of a combo plate of certain tricksterish attributes.

Yeah, I think that's probably true. I was going through the Devil's Road Map featurette on the DVDs, which is AWESOME because it looks like they explain the lore and research behind every single episode. And they talk about how the Trickster figures into many different stories and mythologies, so I don't think they mapped him to one specific character. Just the general characteristics and whatever works for the story.


Consuela - Feb 23, 2008 7:01:19 pm PST #6567 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Trickster on SPN is not very Coyote. I did a bunch of Coyote research before writing a story where he appears, although most of my research was limited to California Mission Indian tales. In those stories, Coyote is a creator figure, very self-involved, varies from pretty sneaky to unbelievably stupid, and spends most of his time trying to get sex. And find food.

I don't see much overlap between Trickster on SPN, who really does have something of a moral code, even if the implementation is cruel, and the anarchic creative figure of (some) Native American legends.


sumi - Feb 25, 2008 5:53:35 am PST #6568 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

Is it wrong of me to be so pleased that Supernatural was #2 AND #4 in the ratings for the CW?


sumi - Feb 25, 2008 6:50:56 am PST #6569 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

Javier bardem & JDM separated at birth? (Scroll down for the picture.)


Ailleann - Feb 25, 2008 6:56:33 am PST #6570 of 10002
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

EVERYONE is saying that, it's so hysterical. Is there a market for movie with a character and his mysteriously-more-Spanish brother?


sumi - Feb 25, 2008 6:57:47 am PST #6571 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

They could drive around the country in a cool muscle car hunting demons. . .


Consuela - Feb 25, 2008 9:04:34 am PST #6572 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Holy cow, that's really compelling evidence, I must say. I think the dimples really do it.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 25, 2008 9:46:33 am PST #6573 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

You think that's freaky? Observe the family resemblance!