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Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business  

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Lee - Feb 15, 2008 6:49:49 pm PST #6221 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Neither Winchester is all that stable by himself, frankly. I think Sam would last longer, but he's going to be as dangerous and unpredictable as Dean would be by himself, in different ways.

I'd vote for more dangerous and unpredicatable, myself. Dean would turn some of his sadness and anger inward, but I don't think sam would.


beth b - Feb 15, 2008 6:56:02 pm PST #6222 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

Dean spent a lot of time in his father's company and Sam's company. All of his other 'friends' were in the business and sporadic contacts at best. Sam actually spent time in the world outside of demon hunting- made normal friends and more regular human connections with plans for the future. Each time the important people in his life have been ripped away, by things he can't explain to most people; Sam has taken a deeper dive into the black pool.

and taking dean away for about 6 months, ( 100 Tuesdays plus 3 months from Wednesday) , push Sam even if Dean lives.

The Trickster was stupid in the typical Trickster way. He had no understanding of human emotion/motivation.


-t - Feb 15, 2008 7:00:37 pm PST #6223 of 10002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

The Trickster was stupid in the typical Trickster way. He had no understanding of human emotion/motivation.

You think? I think pushing Sam to stare into the abyss was exactly his intent.


beth b - Feb 15, 2008 7:14:56 pm PST #6224 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

yes, but he said " all the sacrificing you brothers do for each other leads to pain" - that isn't going to change - it is what they do.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 15, 2008 7:33:34 pm PST #6225 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

It may not be so much inhuman perspective as selfish hedonism that prevents the Trickster from understanding them fully. For whom would he sacrifice his happiness?


beth b - Feb 15, 2008 7:41:00 pm PST #6226 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

that works too - it just seems to be what confounds the Trickster in stories


Consuela - Feb 15, 2008 8:39:45 pm PST #6227 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

My theory is that Ruby put the Trickster up to this. His argument to Sam about the futility of self-sacrifice seemed designed to get Sam to "prepare for this war" the way Ruby wants him to do. And in their last encounter, the Trickster really liked Dean, while he didn't think much of Sam one way or another; so his focus on causing Sam pain seems rather unmotivated, really.


Lee - Feb 15, 2008 8:44:32 pm PST #6228 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I like that! I've been wondering why the trickster cared so much about teaching Sam that lesson. I can see it if Sam was being cocky/full of himself about saving Dean, because then it would be his just desserts, but he really hasn't been.


Theresa - Feb 15, 2008 9:09:23 pm PST #6229 of 10002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

the cut of him making the bed and eating especially made my skin crawl.

I only saw Taxi Driver once and I don't remember it in detail. I understand that Travis Bickle is the De Niro character [link] and I'm guessing that line was to reinforce the creepy cold blooded scenes that we watched of Sam, but can someone explain the "in a skirt" part to me? I'm feeling really dense, but I don't get it.


Lee - Feb 16, 2008 6:52:29 am PST #6230 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I'm glad you asked Austin, because that's not part of my cultural knowledge either.