Sam's struggle has been to define who he is as a part of the family, where Dean's has/will be to figure out who and what, if anything, he is outside of it.
Oh yes. Definitely.
Now, this would be the perfect time for a swear word.
Kaylee ,'Jaynestown'
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Beverly - Jul 24, 2007 9:22:15 am PDT #364 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
Nutty - Jul 24, 2007 11:32:34 am PDT #365 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
A cloaking device with bling?
Heh.
I'd posit, Juliana, that rather than a complex analysis of their experiences, you can go with the general reason why John and Dean perform their masculinities so differently: one of these two grew up in the 50s, with all the attendant repression-and-mayonnaise that era involves, and the other one didn't.
Ow! Help, I sprained something, imagining Dean watching MTV circa 1986.
Ailleann - Jul 24, 2007 11:39:05 am PDT #366 of 10002
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I just want to see Dean's glam phase. (Please?)
P.M. Marc - Jul 24, 2007 11:39:20 am PDT #367 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
I'd posit, Juliana, that rather than a complex analysis of their experiences, you can go with the general reason why John and Dean perform their masculinities so differently: one of these two grew up in the 50s, with all the attendant repression-and-mayonnaise that era involves, and the other one didn't.
If the show's to be believed, John grew up mostly in the 60s, being from the crop of '54. So somewhere in between Leave It to Beaver and The Wonder Years.
Ow! Help, I sprained something, imagining Dean watching MTV circa 1986.
What year did Headbanger's Ball start, anyhow?
askye - Jul 24, 2007 11:45:50 am PDT #368 of 10002
Thrive to spite them
Headbanger's Ball ran from April 11, 1987 - January 1995, according to wikipedia.
Atropa - Jul 24, 2007 11:48:05 am PDT #369 of 10002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.
Ow! Help, I sprained something, imagining Dean watching MTV circa 1986.
What year did Headbanger's Ball start, anyhow?
My brain just went to Dean sneaking off so he could go see the Iron Maiden tour when Guns 'n Roses opened for them (which would have been '88 or '89).
Ailleann - Jul 24, 2007 12:00:41 pm PDT #370 of 10002
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Nutty - Jul 24, 2007 12:24:19 pm PDT #371 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
If the show's to be believed, John grew up mostly in the 60s, being from the crop of '54.
I think that the speed at which culture travels means that being born in 1954 in Indiana is equivalent to being born in 1946 in California. Or possibly 1846, except for all that newfangled technology.
Polter-Cow - Jul 24, 2007 12:28:19 pm PDT #372 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Am I the only boy in here?
P.M. Marc - Jul 24, 2007 12:39:00 pm PDT #373 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
I think that the speed at which culture travels means that being born in 1954 in Indiana is equivalent to being born in 1946 in California. Or possibly 1846, except for all that newfangled technology.
Heh.
This is where being raised by counterculture UnAmerican freaks (born in a 1936 that for one of them, in terms of tech, might as well have been 1836) puts me at a disadvantage, as my notions of American Masculinity were pretty much formed the same way as Dean's, which is to say by watching a lot of movies with Jack Nicholson in them.