Exactly, Anne. Think about a twelve-year-old Sam looking up to a sixteen-year-old Dean. That's where your really going to see the whole big brother dynamic in play.

Here's some gentle snark: How many single-mom yoga instructors do you know who live in a house like that in a gated community?

I figure she inherited a bunch of money from her folks. (Hey, I can do the jazz-hands too.)

That or the absentee father pays a heck of a lot of child support.

For a lot of their childhood, Dean would have very much been the BIG brother, and not just the slightly older brother.

I also think this must mean it was crazy hard for Dean when Sam went away. I don't know how he didn't talk to him for two years. Or four. Whatever.

Maybe that is why Dean hugged Jessica so tightly in WIAWNSB. He had been secretly watching out for/stalking Sam for all that time at college and Dean felt like he knew her.

Ah! Apparently I was out of handwavium.

::makes note on shopping list. included "new ovaries" to replace ones exploded by Dean and mini!Dean::

Here's some gentle snark: How many single-mom yoga instructors do you know who live in a house like that in a gated community?

I was dorky enough to Mapquest. Cicero is 20 some miles from Indianapolis. That kind of house might be slightly more affordable out this way than it would closer to a city on either coast.

Also, I wonder if the changeling!realtor somehow managed things to get new families with noshable moms in there. Single mothers would be easier hunting than those with partners. Yes, husbands and SOs could be dealt with, but that's just an extra bother.

If the timeline is roughly concurrent to real life, Dean is 28 and Sam is 25.

They specifically had Sam say, just a day before the deal was made, that he was still 23 years old. (Along with all the other specials in Ghost Town, USA.) So at best, he has just turned 24, and he cannot turn 25 before the deal runs out.

Also, Sam was born in May 1983, while Dean is January 1979. So Dean is 4+ years older, not 4-. He is never 28 at the same time that Sam is 25; he will in fact turn 30 while Sam is 25.

So Dean may be 28 or he may be 29 (they have been fudging up the realtimeness like whoa lately), but Sam is definitely 24.

Sam was born in May 1983

Kripke says his son was born on Sam's birthday, May 2nd. So he thinks the six month anniversary, Nov. 2nd, is going to be an interesting day at his house.

When was it specified the second? Or is this something that Kripke has just assigned and then later was spooked when his son was born? Do we also know the date in January for Dean?

We've seen both their police records.

Although the May 2 date was seeded in the pilot: Jessica is killed two days after Dean shows up and borrows Sam. Dean shows up in the late hours of Halloween. (And later we discover that that's exactly six months after Sam's birthday.)

Ahhh. I couldn't remember the dates from anything. So Sam is a Taurus. Huh.

They specifically had Sam say, just a day before the deal was made, that he was still 23 years old. (Along with all the other specials in Ghost Town, USA.) So at best, he has just turned 24, and he cannot turn 25 before the deal runs out.

OK, let's all pretend that I actually know math. You're right, Nutty, Sam is currently 24. I calculated Sam's age based on 2008 accidentally, not on 2007.

Dean, however, is 28, because he is four months older than me. Thankfully I didn't fuck up my own age.