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Ben ,'The Killer In Me'


Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Beverly - Oct 05, 2007 2:32:48 pm PDT #3164 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I'm having the absolute opposite reaction to this particular actress than you, Plei. I've been eager for more female agency on the show, for good characters with chewy backstories. I love Ellen Harvelle beyond reason. And yes, I like Jo, but I don't buy her as an effective lone hunter, either. A partner, an apprentice, yes, but not on her own. And Tal isn't nearly as stereotypically young CW stock as Cassidy appears to be.

I'm willing to see what she's got. But her initial appearance doesn't impress or intrigue me, so she--and the character--is going to have to win me over.


P.M. Marc - Oct 05, 2007 2:37:14 pm PDT #3165 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

And Tal isn't nearly as stereotypically young CW stock as Cassidy appears to be.

I disagree, as I knew Tal specifically from previous roles on the WB, so she's kind of slotted into that Hey! It's that CW/WB/UPN person! slot for me, and she has the softer, younger look that I expect from them.

I found the introduction of the character much less heavy-handed than I was expecting, and a lot more interesting. How does the demon know her? Why? Where did she learn to stalk effectively? How does she do that cool kohl liner thing without her eyes watering?


Polter-Cow - Oct 05, 2007 2:38:32 pm PDT #3166 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

The show would have to get to its 5th season before it could comprehend the idea of a female big bad.

Er, I think having Meg be a recurring villain is a credit to their comprehension.


juliana - Oct 05, 2007 2:42:28 pm PDT #3167 of 10002
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

I guess I can't quite see what's so surprising about the idea of them having to cast young and hot (look at the boys - yes, they can act, but we spend many posts rhapsodizing about their beauty). We haven't seen anything of the character other than she stalks Sam's nose, she can fight very well, and she wears her hair down.

My apprehension stems from the fact that while Kripke and Co. show a tendency to understand the coolness of the idea of women & people of color with agency, they tend to fuck up the execution. I've got faith that Ms. Cassidy's character is damn interesting - I just hope that the producers & writers write her arc properly (i.e.: non-problematically. You hear me, Eric??).

IOW, it's their show. I have to have some faith in them and let them show me what they want to show me. Then, I can judge.


Nutty - Oct 05, 2007 2:42:58 pm PDT #3168 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

So, Ple, what you're saying then is that I am just a great big klutz? I burned the hair off my forearm once, by reaching over a be-candled table without thinking. (I also once set my cat's tail on fire one time.)

I... think we may have to agree to disagree on the long-hair thing. I know stunties prefer it, because the flailing hair hides their faces, but it's the hair equivalent of fighting in a sheath dress: sure, maybe you can, but all things being equal, why would you handicap yourself like that?


Typo Boy - Oct 05, 2007 2:49:17 pm PDT #3169 of 10002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

But her initial appearance doesn't impress or intrigue me, so she--and the character--is going to have to win me over.

And this differs from other characters how? We have glimpsed the new character - we have not been really introduced. So suspending judgment until we see some character building/acting makes sense. Your catnip may vary of course.

I think she has to win everyone over. But unless she can't act or has been written really badly I don't see why she wouldn't.


juliana - Oct 05, 2007 2:59:45 pm PDT #3170 of 10002
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

2 more thoughts about Mysterious Blonde Fighter:

1) Barring omniscience, she wouldn't necessarily know that Sam was in a room with shitload of candles until she was in the house and near the room. I can't see any demon giving her a second while she pulls up her hair.

2) For some fighters I know, long hair is a mark of your skill. (You're so good, you don't need to worry about cutting it short. Did I mention that these people are insane?) I doubt that's Kripke's intent, but that's why it's not pinging me.


Juliebird - Oct 05, 2007 4:26:57 pm PDT #3171 of 10002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I have no opinion of the mysterious blond woman (child? girl? chick?) as of yet, but her introduction didn't turn me off, and I've seen enough silly shows and movies where the women have long whippy hair that it doesn't ping me.

Now, if she's fighting in heels I shall laugh and point and make with the mocking. But the hair, well, for me it's a given that it has already been air-dryed with the waving of hands.

Anyhoo, I wasn't quite thrilled with Dean's character (was it the acting? the writing?), and I totally agree that the seven deadly sins should have at least been kept on for at least a mini-arc this season. For all the big deal made out of them, they ended up being rather weak. The YED and Meg were more of a threat than these guys.

I agree that the show/Dean/JA hit it's/his stride at the end when Sam finally brought down the smack-fu with the "one year to live" crap behavior. And hopefully that'll be the last we'll see of that new and not improved Dean.


DebetEsse - Oct 05, 2007 4:40:21 pm PDT #3172 of 10002
Woe to the fucking wicked.

You know how, when you look back at Season 1 of Angel, and you think, seriously, guys, you think these guys are tough? Just wait. Or Buffy. Or Farscape, or whatever (I would say HP, but that was kind of the point all along). That upping of the ante, yeah? That was my reaction to the 7 and the knife (which, in my head, is medieval. Last time all these demons walked the Earth). Bigger bads and bigger (metaphorical) guns, hand in hand. Raising the stakes.


P.M. Marc - Oct 05, 2007 4:49:05 pm PDT #3173 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I... think we may have to agree to disagree on the long-hair thing. I know stunties prefer it, because the flailing hair hides their faces, but it's the hair equivalent of fighting in a sheath dress: sure, maybe you can, but all things being equal, why would you handicap yourself like that?

In my case (not that I fought with it!), I'd say because it was easier for me to predict what it would be doing down than if I had it pulled back. Also, better distribution of its weight. One of the reasons I keep cutting it whenever I get it long enough to braid again is because, if I keep it up or back (which I like in terms of aesthetic), it pulls at my scalp and gives me headaches.

So, Ple, what you're saying then is that I am just a great big klutz? I burned the hair off my forearm once, by reaching over a be-candled table without thinking.

Dude, I blistered myself to scarring on a plastic bag. You can't be near the klutz that I am. Forearm hair is different. Forearm hair, I shave.