Thanks, Bev. I know you recc'd those before, but they had gotten lost in my list of Things To Read & Watch, which is like a bajillion links long at this point. Another thing that got lost was your comment about (and this is butchered) Dean-kid-fic and memories: did you mean lj memories?

And, besides Eureka, which is a big ole ensemble with family at the core, I can't think of a single show where the addition of a baby/kid/teen boded well (The X-Files, Angel... Mad About You...)

If handled correctly though, I do see some awesome possibilities for stand alone episodes, or just really good fic.

definitely lots of possibilities, which could rise or fall depending on execution. Kid could become an addition to the series (No!), or maybe something like on Farscape "Look at the Princess" where it's a oneshot or maybe a short arc over two or three eps, and something happens at the end where they can never see the kid again (death, protective custody hunter-style, kid already has a family and they want nothing to do with the Winchesters/the Winchesters think the kid is safest far away from them), but first there is roadtripping and hunting with a minor family member and awkwardness, woobies, and then, of course, pain.

Or the kid is a recurring character that is babysat by Ellen or Missouri or sumpthin (noooes!!!!1!).

With.Lots.Of.Pain.

get outa my head!

Julie, yes, LJ memories. I have to get in there with a backhoe and edit where I have stuff filed. Some of it is public, so feel free to help yourself if you like.

Also, do I have you friended on LJ? Are you on LJ? Because I forget what your moniker is there if I do.

Coolbeans. I'm tzegha over there. I'm thinking I need to change that before some girl in germany gets pissed and wants her name back. dreamsofthespider.

And your lj name is...?

Julie, I'm sophiap over there (based on my nom de fic). I've only written one SPN fic so far, but I've been dumping various faves into my "fic recs" category in my memories (probably a lot of repeats of what people have mentioned here).

I'm arliss. Finding you, friending you while I can still spell tzegha. Means?

Found you. OMG--you're a vidder? I'm not worthy!

And your link is broken for your "a tiny grief song" for Wash, and I need to see it now. Pleasenownownow.

I'm minim_calibre there (and everywhere else).

Tzegha was an Eretria-born German exchange student I went to highschool with. I'm sure her name means something. Something I got stuck with when desperate for a name no one else had.

Changed my name to dreamsofthespider (let's confuse EVERYONE!).

My poor poor website, I quit my job and decided that was an expense that had to go. I'm also dreamsofthespider at youtube... I don't think a tiny grief song is up (I need to re-edit the end credits) but I'll try to get it up tonight with a mediafire link. I had seen a prescreening of Serenity and made a tribute/grieving vid for the official release, cuz lord knows, even though Joss didn't, that we didn't get a chance in the movie. Um, I'm probably repeating what's in my journal. /bucket.

Friends!!!!

Or the kid is a recurring character that is babysat by Ellen or Missouri or sumpthin

When Ellen had to have her talk with Jo, I was really expecting her to say that Dean and Jo couldn't be together because John was Jo's bio-daddy too. I'm still not convinced he's not. So, in my mind, Ellen has already been raising a Winchester.

Another great story? Have Ellen show up in 3 or 4 months with Dean's baby. There were looks. Ellen is hot and Dean is a horndog. IJS.

I'm in the corner of no new additions to the show. I'm happy with the boys saving people, hunting things - the family business. And I'm obviously ready for the season to start as you can tell from my cracktastic theories.

Going over to add Julie and Anne to LJ.

I don't think Jo's John's child. I do think maybe Ellen and John had a thing. Sometime. Or wanted one and never consummated it.

You know what set me off on Ellen/Dean? That look Ellen gave him when Jo was flirting with him over REM and she says, "You're afraid of my mother?"

It just looked like he and Ellen had a communication shorthand Jo didn't share, maybe because of his quasi-parental role in Sam's life. His relationship to Ellen has always seemed to me more one of equals than fillial. Or maybe I'm reading in. I often do.

Entirely unrelated to this conversation, but you know what I love? I love that face Dean makes when he tastes the herb-n-dirt mix in Home. (Mostly because, dude, he tasted it WHY?)