Angel: Connor, this is Spike and Illyria. Guys, this is Connor. Connor: Hi. umm...I like your outfit. Illyria: Your body warms. This one is lusting after me. Connor: Oh...no, I--I--it's just that it's the outfit. I guess I've had a thing for older women. Angel: They were supposed to fix that.

'Origin'


Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Theresa - Aug 30, 2007 7:06:55 pm PDT #2049 of 10002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

Dean's wish was to "get some rest".

There's a bit of a "lay down your burdens" theme at the end of S2... Dean talking about being tired of hunting, extending through to him giving up the hunter's life permanently by giving up his whole life. I think there's more at work in this, but that's definitely a theme you could see.

Yes, Dean is weary and ready to lay down his burdens, but I think Dean’s sincerest wish is that Mary would never have died and they would have never known the lives of hunters. Dean would have never made a “get some rest” wish for himself. His happiness in the wishverse is a secondary effect.

interpretation that Dean, deep down, hates his father's f***ing guts
I don’t see this at all. At all. I think John being dead in the wishverse is representative of the fact that Dean subconsciously knew this wasn’t real all along. John told him to go take care of it from the grave. “Course, I know what you would say.”

If John had been sitting across the table at dinner, he would have said it much earlier in the show. So in order for the story to happen, and Dean to be able to enjoy some happiness for Sam, John had to be dead. John was tough on the boys, but Dean f***ing hating him? No f’ing way.

I was just browsing that user, s/he's very good.
Yes. I saw the one Bev was talking about with John and Desperado. Makes me want to snuggle with him.


Juliebird - Aug 30, 2007 7:15:29 pm PDT #2050 of 10002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

The Dean hating his father I didn't buy on a gut level, but it was interesting in a theoretical way.

But I did find it terribly fascinating that Dean was repeatedly told to "get some rest" by Mary, Sam and Carmen throughout the ep. perhaps it was merely the djinn trying to placate him so he'd be easier feeding, or perhaps it really was part of the wish.


Theresa - Aug 30, 2007 7:22:03 pm PDT #2051 of 10002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

trying to placate him so he'd be easier feeding

I can see that. But I think having Dean wish for rest would open so many possibilities for Sam's unhappiness that Dean would never make it. Dean is tired, but instead of killing himself after Sam dies in AHBL2, Dean trades his soul to bring Sam back. Dean doesn't rest unless the condition is met that Sam is alright.

The Dean hating his father I didn't buy on a gut level, but it was interesting in a theoretical way.

I think the fact that he turned to him even at the grave says "you're the smartest guy I know, please help me figure this out." But he couldn't be in the episode for that very reason.


sumi - Aug 30, 2007 8:06:30 pm PDT #2052 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

So, no promo tonight?

(WI&WSNB just started here.)


Toddson - Aug 31, 2007 8:56:54 am PDT #2053 of 10002
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

OK, I've skipped 1700 posts so I don't know if it's been posted already, but this made me laugh out loud - the Supernatural drinking game.


Theresa - Aug 31, 2007 9:28:21 am PDT #2054 of 10002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

That is very smile worthy.


Beverly - Aug 31, 2007 9:34:34 am PDT #2055 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Yeah, that's a good one.

Here's another. And another, I think better cut to the lyrics. Neither are funny though, more about the mangst.

My favorite at the moment.


Theresa - Aug 31, 2007 10:06:16 am PDT #2056 of 10002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

::loves Beverly::

The last one made my stomach drop when it said the year was up. I suddenly realize this may be a hard season for me.

I love that it had the hot Demon kiss from AHBL2. They seriously need to bring that actress back because that was the best chemistry he has had.


Juliebird - Aug 31, 2007 10:37:57 am PDT #2057 of 10002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

What a great vid!

*gulp* I'm already afraid for the end of season three.


Cass - Aug 31, 2007 6:51:25 pm PDT #2058 of 10002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I'm feeling the need for a pilot rewatch. Nephlet is here and has requested SPN. Do I raise them right, or what? Anyone feel like playing?