No, I mislead. The DC was from BUaBS. Sam wasn't possessed before that. I just knew that at some point he was, so I kept looking for it. And was, then, unsurprised in BUaBS. And I think the ep would have been even better the first time if I hadn't been waiting for it. It's when I went totally spoiler free and I won't go to their website now. I learned the hard way.

I'm shocked. You NEVER do that.

I think Cass means the clip for BUaBS were up very early, and included a shot of Sam with black eyes. Therefore spoiling the big reveal.

ah, I unnerstand now. And yes, all those responsible for previews for all shows should be tarred and feathered.

And speaking of the black eyes, I loved that when Jo shouts "He was possessed?!" Dean gives her a look of such loathing and dismissal "You actually thought that was Sam?! You are dead to me."

Juliebird, I know this is a terrible earworm but Bryan Adams Everything I do (I do it for you) popped into my head when you were describing the look on Dean's face.

Look at Those lyrics. Isn't that Dean exactly? The reason I thought of it is probably because I've already seen a video of it (my mind is swiss cheese so at this point I could have seen it yesterday and not remembered) but I am going to search the vid places. I'm betting it was made. eta Yes, it was made. A lot.

Oh, and I just saw that you and I were COMMd from Boxed Set. I'm not sure who is Martin and who is Lewis, but we might have an act.

Heh. I don't see that as a look of loathing, especially because Dean wasn't sure himself. Just sort of an "of course, it couldn't have been him." look.

Well, no. Noone is without sin. But Sam and Dean live through stealing, lie daily, break in to places, desecrate graves. I mean, yes, they are fighting against evil. But I don't think I can really say they are fighting *for good*, they are fighting against evil.

t loves Cass brains

Austin, Bryan Adams is in my head, damn you!

but, despite that, yeah, that's Dean. And really, that's Sam, too. What they'll do for each other that they'll do for no one else, up to and including their own father.

Plei, I got in the beginning that Dean was all "OMG, it's Sam doing these horrible things, now I must find a way to prove that this isn't true", but by the time we got to the Jo scene, i read nothing but certainty. At that point in the ep, Dean seemed (to me) to be dead certain that Sam was possessed. Even if it was the theory he was working on that wasn't proved til he doused Sam in holy water, the moment that was done, everything else was moot. That silent pause he gave Jo seemed judgmental of her doubts (and maybe he was judging and condemning his own doubts, too). Throughout the ep, he was trying to find excuses and rationalization for what Sam did, with that doubt niggling at him, and sure, he lucked out in being right, but I think what he was judging Jo for was not taking those same leaps of faith, despite the niggling.

I agree.

And

While I was looking through those videos I found I Hate Everything About You, which is really wonderfully done showing the conflicting emotions in all three Winchesters. Especially good vidding where Dean separates Sam and John.

Oh, Winchesters.

don't hurt me, Bev!

Never, sweetling.

I still believe Sam wasn't as drunk in Playthings as he wanted Dean to think he was. He seemed fairly sober a moment before when he was looking out the window as they carted off the corpse of the guy he "couldn't save." Troubled, but not reeling drunk.

I think he wasn't able to bring it up sober, didn't think Dean would let him get the words out sober, so he had enough to make it plausible and faked being falling down drunk. That explains the bad drunk act.

However, it's shot full of holes by the morning after scene, unless Sam is a weenie drunk who can't hold more than a glassful of liquor without getting completely schnockered.

Ooh, good vid (except for the always wrong use of breaking blocks and spinny transitions. Always.) thanks for the linky, Austin.

Missed this last night, but, Can I be Martin?! Not because I think I'd be a good straight-man, but just so's I can drink. (I almost said "can I be Dean", and then I got confused, thinking "Winchester", because I've been drinking in character).

As for the drunk scene in Playthings, when I watched it the first time, it wasn't so much that I thought it was horrible (mildly bad), it was just so... there, all of a sudden. No lead up of Sam at the bar, popping open a beer, couple of shots lined up. Just, bam! Sam's drunk and how long was Dean gone that Sam was able to get plastered (were there even any empties in the room?). I was even waiting for Dean to make a comment to the bartender later about how his brother must have been spending some quality time with him.

I'm not sure this can be made right in my mind.

Now I want to rewatch it.

(were there even any empties in the room?)

There was a too-short shot of what looked like a mini-bar in the room, where one would assume one could see bottles of liquor. Dean looks over at it just before he give the "are you drunk" line.

The idea that Sam's a lightweight is popular in fic, but seriously. LOOK at the guy. Sheer size alone he's got to be able to pack 'em in.

Once, in the halcyon days of my liver, I did about five shots in the space of an hour. Immense weepiness hit me at about hour three. So... perhaps the mini-bar consisted of airline-size bottles, and Sam downed a wide variety in quick succession?

Tequila, Jager, and whatever else Dean mentioned is a pretty vicious combination as well.