Or maybe the Father was referring to whatever the YED did to him as a baby?
You want to meet the real me now?
Mal ,'War Stories'
Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business
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Juliebird - Aug 16, 2007 5:41:10 pm PDT #1407 of 10002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
Theresa - Aug 16, 2007 5:41:43 pm PDT #1408 of 10002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"
Maybe I could be saved. Oh Sam.
Beverly - Aug 16, 2007 5:43:45 pm PDT #1409 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
This was the first time I felt like maybe JP was going to grow up to be a decent actor--more than hitting his mark, staying in his light, and saying his lines. Very deeply felt and underplayed. Beautiful.
Ailleann - Aug 16, 2007 5:44:41 pm PDT #1410 of 10002
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Oh, the completely gratuitous hand-and-flask porn.
Bless you, Show.
Theresa - Aug 16, 2007 5:45:43 pm PDT #1411 of 10002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"
The end is the only thing that pings me. Sam:What did you see? Dean: Maybe, God's Will.
Huh. I've seen a lotta things that looked more like God's Will than that coincidental auto accident. I don't think God smites someone down whenever something falls off the back of a truck and crashes through the car behind it. I know it is "buy-able", but still, I would have liked to have had it sold just a little more to feel Dean's being able to open himself up to believe.
Juliebird - Aug 16, 2007 5:46:12 pm PDT #1412 of 10002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
...or maybe Sam's sin was bringing Dean back from the grips of death?
But I think the point was these were people who needed saving, redemption, and I think a part of that is realizing that you have a choice. That, down the road, Sam would be put in situations that would (try to) tempt him to work for the YED, that this is one of his paths that he needs to be steered from... and I'm babbling and make no sense to my own self...
Amy - Aug 16, 2007 5:46:42 pm PDT #1413 of 10002
Because books.
Maybe I could be saved. Oh Sam.
And then Dean's "Maybe God's will."
I don't think anyone, if you believe that way, is *without* sin. Even a priest will covet or whatever. I guess it struck me that Father Gregory seemed to choose people so clearly in despair, broken, sinned (or even sinned against?) to *carry out* his work, that appearing to Sam struck me as out of the pattern.
Of course, the people he chose to act for him were also people who possibly needed or wanted redemption, so...
Sam is just so. sad. and broken there at the end, so disappointed. And the line where Dean says he's looking out for him, and he says, "I know, but you're only one person. I was hoping something else would be looking out, too" ... GUH.
Although, that plays so well into Dean's anxieties and self-worth issues. Will he be enough? Can he be enough? He loves Sam most. Why can't he save him, protect him?
Oh, SHOW.
Theresa - Aug 16, 2007 5:48:43 pm PDT #1414 of 10002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"
Sam is just so. sad. and broken there at the end, so disappointed. And the line where Dean says he's looking out for him, and he says, "I know, but you're only one person. I was hoping something else would be looking out, too" ... GUH.
Although, that plays so well into Dean's anxieties and self-worth issues. Will he be enough? Can he be enough? He loves Sam most. Why can't he save him, protect him?
Oh, SHOW.
So much Yes.
Ailleann - Aug 16, 2007 5:48:44 pm PDT #1415 of 10002
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Of course, the people he chose to act for him were also people who possibly needed or wanted redemption, so...
Ohh, this.
This ep is one hell of a kick in the teeth when you know that BUaBS is right after it (especially on first viewing, when you don't know what's going on with Sam)...
Cass - Aug 16, 2007 5:51:44 pm PDT #1416 of 10002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
I don't think anyone, if you believe that way, is *without* sin. Even a priest will covet or whatever. I guess it struck me that Father Gregory seemed to choose people so clearly in despair, broken, sinned (or even sinned against?) to *carry out* his work, that appearing to Sam struck me as out of the pattern.Well, no. Noone is without sin. But Sam and Dean live through stealing, lie daily, break in to places, desecrate graves. I mean, yes, they are fighting against evil. But I don't think I can really say they are fighting *for good*, they are fighting against evil.
And Sam is in despair. His visions and what he might become? He made Dean promise to kill him. And while I think that was easier for Sam to ask, I don't think it was actually easy at all for him. I see Sam as broken a lot of the time. Guilty too, the demon killing his mom, killing Jess and causing all of this death and pain was because of him. Not his fault, and I don't blame him, but it's about Sam a lot of the time.