And don't you ever stand for that sort of thing. Someone ever tries to kill you, you try to kill 'em right back! ... You got the right same as anyone to live and try to kill people.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: Jon B, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych, msbelle, shrift, Dana, Laura

Stompy Emerita: ita, DXMachina


Liese S. - Oct 24, 2010 9:24:56 pm PDT #4736 of 6786
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

It`s fine. We were going to be late this year anyway, so we can pimp and plan as usual. The moratorium is only six months, right, so if people still feel strongly about it, it can be re-proposed in plenty of time for next year.
 
I know it probably doesn`t feel like it now, but having a proposal fail to meet quorum may be a good thing. It means we`ve set the number correctly (for a while I thought it was too low, despite the sheer perfection of the number itself) and it`s a good reminder for people to participate in our civic process. We can revisit this topic later, after time has passed, as intended by the system we worked out. It`s not a bad thing, inherently, even for this particular proposal.


Pix - Oct 24, 2010 10:24:25 pm PDT #4737 of 6786
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

it`s a good reminder for people to participate in our civic process

Yep, this. To be clear, I wasn't upset that it isn't passing; I was bummed that not enough people voted to even qualify. Regardless, it's moot now. We'll bs consensus in F2F to use November this year, I imagine, and I'll re-propose it in six months if I remember. Someone poke me in six months.


SailAweigh - Oct 25, 2010 9:05:40 am PDT #4738 of 6786
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I'm another of those folks who fully intended to vote, but then lost track of time and the next thing I knew the vote had closed. This may be the only vote I've missed since I started actually paying attention to B'crazy, Lightbulbs and Press, which it took me a couple of years to really get the swing of things. I like voting, it's exciting!


Kate P. - Oct 25, 2010 9:12:17 am PDT #4739 of 6786
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

I meant to vote, too, and then spaced out, partly because it seemed likely to pass unanimously -- but I forgot about needing a quorum! So this is definitely a good reminder for me about the importance of voting and making my voice heard.


omnis_audis - Oct 25, 2010 10:27:36 am PDT #4740 of 6786
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

I meant to vote, too, and then spaced out, partly because it seemed likely to pass unanimously -- but I forgot about needing a quorum! So this is definitely a good reminder for me about the importance of voting and making my voice heard.
And this is a good lesson for the real world too, with election day just around the corner. Just because someone is ahead in the polls, doesn't mean they will automatically win.

t /soapbox


Atropa - Oct 25, 2010 3:16:06 pm PDT #4741 of 6786
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I meant to vote, too, and then spaced out, partly because it seemed likely to pass unanimously -- but I forgot about needing a quorum! So this is definitely a good reminder for me about the importance of voting and making my voice heard.

Hey look! I'm Kate! Because I was about to post something very similar.


Java cat - Oct 25, 2010 11:00:43 pm PDT #4742 of 6786
Not javachik

Criminy, posting for a vote and then closing it THREE DAYS later? Isn't THAT against the rules? I argue that two weeks is a reasonable time to give people with busy lives time to read what it's all about and then have time to vote. Even a week is rushed, but at least more reasonable than three days.


NoiseDesign - Oct 26, 2010 12:32:19 am PDT #4743 of 6786
Our wings are not tired

I'm pretty sure it's been three days ever since I joined the board.


Sophia Brooks - Oct 26, 2010 2:07:57 am PDT #4744 of 6786
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

One week total- split between discussing and voting. There is some wiggle room to extend the time if there is a reason (decided in the voting thread) like holidays or f2f etc. We did vote on it, so there could be a proposal to change.


Ginger - Oct 26, 2010 3:11:59 am PDT #4745 of 6786
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

We hashed that out extensively during the development of the voting process. I see no reason to revisit it now, particularly since that's the first objection I recall in the intervening years.