You got all kinds of learnin' and you made me look the fool without tryin', and yet here I am with a gun to your head. That's 'cause I got people with me. People who trust each other, who do for each other, and ain't always lookin' for the advantage.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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Pix - Jun 30, 2010 2:45:02 pm PDT #4604 of 6786
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

I use pbworks' wiki format with my students, and it's incredibly user friendly and low maintenance. The creator invites participants, so any Buffista who wanted access would just have to have the admin(s) send an email invite or create a username. Super easy peasy.


§ ita § - Jun 30, 2010 4:02:45 pm PDT #4605 of 6786
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm against anything where you have to have a separate authentication mechanism. We can install any wiki on this server we want. That's not a problem. The issue is having it be an organic outgrowth of this system. Something externally hosted never can be.

Even if anyone was going to volunteer to send invites out to every single registered Buffista, who's going to stay on top of that?


Pix - Jun 30, 2010 4:12:41 pm PDT #4606 of 6786
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Oh, that's fine. I wasn't saying it was a better option, ita. I don't have a clue what b.org is capable of internally, so I was just throwing it out there. It's great if we can build it into our own space.


meara - Jun 30, 2010 5:30:06 pm PDT #4607 of 6786

A wiki definitely sounds like the best thing to me, in terms of organizing things. But I can see the authentication issue.


Zenkitty - Jun 30, 2010 5:54:41 pm PDT #4608 of 6786
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Even if anyone was going to volunteer to send invites out to every single registered Buffista, who's going to stay on top of that?

Could we post a notice somewhere like Press, saying if you want an invite, do this, and they do it and get an invite by some automated system? So that a human doesn't have to monitor and send invites manually? I know nothing about this, as is probably obvious; I just really like automating processes.


Sophia Brooks - Jul 01, 2010 1:52:49 am PDT #4609 of 6786
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I actually take back what I said about no one using it if it wasn't a thread-- I really meant I didn't think anyone would use it if it was off-site. An on-site wiki would be perfect, but I think that any solution that does not call for a lot of work on the side of the developers is good (like the thread solution as envisioned by Strega).


§ ita § - Jul 01, 2010 4:54:59 am PDT #4610 of 6786
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

if you want an invite, do this, and they do it and get an invite by some automated system? So that a human doesn't have to monitor and send invites manually?

What's to stop someone from doing that and signing up as Zenkitty and doing all sorts of stuff under your name?

That's a big reason to have them the same. Transparency of identity.


Jon B. - Jul 01, 2010 5:25:03 am PDT #4611 of 6786
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I haven't taken an in depth look yet, but TWiki *might* be flexible enough to allow single authentication: [link]


Zenkitty - Jul 01, 2010 6:14:09 am PDT #4612 of 6786
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

What's to stop someone from doing that and signing up as Zenkitty and doing all sorts of stuff under your name?

No, I know that's bad, but - We can't do the signing-up inside the board, where we're signed in with passwords? I think I don't understand the problem enough to even frame the question correctly. Never mind.


§ ita § - Jul 01, 2010 8:03:32 am PDT #4613 of 6786
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That's interesting Jon. I'll have to take a look at that in more detail.