You know, I just... I woke up, and I looked in the mirror, and I thought, hey, what's with all the sin? I need to change. I'm... I'm dirty. I'm, I'm bad with the... sex and the envy and that, that loud music us kids listen to nowadays.

Buffy ,'Lessons'


Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: Jon B, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych, msbelle, shrift, Dana, Laura

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DavidS - Mar 22, 2010 2:40:37 pm PDT #4478 of 6786
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Gus was not a troll.

He was a member of the community who offed his board persona.

The very fact that we're still talking about it years later indicates it's an important part of our history.

And again, I don't get the "immortalized" language.

We're not giving him a posthumous Medal of Honor.


§ ita § - Mar 22, 2010 2:41:12 pm PDT #4479 of 6786
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Gus isn't a story about trolls, and I'd be frustrated if that was the answer I was pointed to when people are patently talking about something else. Gus is a story about pseudicide and tvtropes, in whichever order you find most interesting.


Steph L. - Mar 22, 2010 2:42:28 pm PDT #4480 of 6786
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I don't think he deserves to be enshrined in our FAQ. That's permanent attention.

See, that's the part that doesn't make sense to me.

Eh. You don't have to get it. I'm not trying to recruit people to my way of thinking; I was expressing my opinion on the idea of putting the Gus situation in the FAQ, much in the same way that many other people were expressing their opinions, some of which didn't make sense to ME.

The FAQ addresses board history. Gus was part of our history. Ergo, Gus goes in the FAQ.

There's a lot of board history that isn't in the FAQ.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 22, 2010 2:43:48 pm PDT #4481 of 6786
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

We could do entries on Zoe and Schmoker/Anathema, too! :)

Seriously, the tvtropes thing should probably be in the FAQ, with a link to discussion of the pseudicide.


DavidS - Mar 22, 2010 2:44:18 pm PDT #4482 of 6786
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

There's a lot of board history that isn't in the FAQ.

Right, because they're not frequently asked questions.


Steph L. - Mar 22, 2010 2:45:09 pm PDT #4483 of 6786
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Right, because they're not frequently asked questions.

How much stuff in the FAQ is stuff that actually frequently gets asked? Seriously.


aurelia - Mar 22, 2010 2:46:13 pm PDT #4484 of 6786
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I wouldn't call Gus a troll, but that is beside the point.

Does it matter to anyone that the FAQ is open to search engines? If someone googled TV Tropes or Fast Eddie and ended up here would that make people more or less comfortable than the links from the articles about TV Tropes?

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§ ita § - Mar 22, 2010 2:48:06 pm PDT #4485 of 6786
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If someone googled TV Tropes or Fast Eddie and ended up here

I doubt anyone googling TV Tropes would ever come up with us as a high-ranking hit. Fast Eddie and TV Tropes? Again, not likely.

Someone googles buffistas in conjunction with that, then they were looking for us, and I don't mind them finding out what went down here.


megan walker - Mar 22, 2010 2:50:13 pm PDT #4486 of 6786
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I have no doubt then when I submit either the suggestions for deletions, new entries, or the entire revised FAQ itself, we will probably conclude that we need to vote on it. So it's not like we need to decide this right now.


Jessica - Mar 22, 2010 2:50:28 pm PDT #4487 of 6786
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I mean, the question might be "What does TV Tropes have to do with the Buffistas? I thought Fast Eddie started tvtropes.org from b.org?"

This is really what I want to publicly clarify. That "Fast Eddie," whoever he is, has fuckall to do with this community or this site.

I want "Fast Eddie is not now and has never been a member of Buffistas.org and here's a link to the conversation where tvtropes was launched" to be easily available information just in case the next reporter he talks to thinks to do a little fact-checking.