Illyria: Wesley's dead. I'm feeling grief for him. I can't seem to control it. I wish to do more violence. Spike: Well, wishes just happen to be horses today.

'Not Fade Away'


Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: Jon B, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych, msbelle, shrift, Dana, Laura

Stompy Emerita: ita, DXMachina


Fred Pete - May 09, 2008 7:35:17 am PDT #2706 of 6786
Ann, that's a ferret.

The proliferation question comes up regularly and seems to get pretty heated -- at least heated enough that a number of people end up with hurt feelings. So I agree that we should explore why people oppose or support thread proliferation and come up with some ideas that will at least reduce hurt feelings.

My mind is completely open as to what the solution might be.


Kevin - May 09, 2008 7:45:33 am PDT #2707 of 6786
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

I agree we need to discuss this one and figure something out.


Frankenbuddha - May 09, 2008 8:22:32 am PDT #2708 of 6786
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I agree we need to discuss this one and figure something out.

Before or after we propose the Dollhouse thread?

RUNS AWAY VERY FAST

Seriously though, I'm concerned there's no way to discuss this without this devolving into a meta version of kerfuffles that come up around individual thread proposals, and I'm not sure we'll come any closer to a solution.


Vortex - May 09, 2008 8:32:32 am PDT #2709 of 6786
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I think that it's good to discuss this without a thread proposal on the table, because I think that people's opinions can be biased based on how they feel about the particular thread being proposed.


SuziQ - May 09, 2008 9:18:04 am PDT #2710 of 6786
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Since this can be such a heated topic, might it help to have people submit their thoughts on proliferation, in brief bullet points, to a neutral party who would then sum up the basic reasons and post them here without attribution. I mean, we KNOW certain people's stance, but this could get the facts and basic pros and cons on the table without the emotion.

If this could help, I'd be willing to summarize.


Frankenbuddha - May 09, 2008 9:23:14 am PDT #2711 of 6786
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Since this can be such a heated topic, might it help to have people submit their thoughts on proliferation, in brief bullet points, to a neutral party who would then sum up the basic reasons and post them here without attribution. I mean, we KNOW certain people's stance, but this could get the facts and basic pros and cons on the table without the emotion.

If this could help, I'd be willing to summarize.

I like this idea, at least for an initial discussion. I could help keep things from getting personal. There would probably need to be some sort of announcement about it in Press. If we decide to go that way, I should add.


msbelle - May 09, 2008 9:25:04 am PDT #2712 of 6786
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I thought it was pretty clear from the last lightbulbs that people just flat out disagree with how adding threads affects the board and/or with what makes the board enjoyable.

I think that is why it gets heated - people like adn use the board differently.


Jessica - May 09, 2008 9:25:37 am PDT #2713 of 6786
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Since this can be such a heated topic, might it help to have people submit their thoughts on proliferation, in brief bullet points, to a neutral party who would then sum up the basic reasons and post them here without attribution. I mean, we KNOW certain people's stance, but this could get the facts and basic pros and cons on the table without the emotion.

Personally, I don't feel comfortable having someone else speak for me in bullet-point form. YMMV.


Nutty - May 09, 2008 9:46:16 am PDT #2714 of 6786
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Yeah, I'm not sure I see the point in summarizing the basic pro/anti stance. I know what the position opposite mine is; and I think I understand where it is coming from; and I like to think I give it the time of day. But that doesn't mean people who hold that stance don't want to explain it, just as I want to explain mine.

There's something basic and human about "But if I tell you all over again, this time you'll find my argument convincing!!" that attempting to short-circuit would probably not be effective, and would probably contribute to, rather than ameliorate, tension.

I thought it was pretty clear from the last lightbulbs that people just flat out disagree

I'm with msbelle. No explanation in the world will overcome that disagreement; if we're to deal with it, I think we would be dealing with methods for accommodating disagreement.


SuziQ - May 09, 2008 9:58:14 am PDT #2715 of 6786
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Gotcha, we are a talky-meat group.