May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Mal ,'Bushwhacked'


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Juliebird - Feb 15, 2009 5:51:26 pm PST #9953 of 10000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I also saw it after reading all the rave reviews here. The girl really was quite something. There were a couple of moments where I did wonder if they snuck in another older actress for a couple of quick shots, or at least snuck in a couple of quick shots of LL in a different make-up (making her look very very old and wizened). Whatever it was, it was deftly conveyed that she was something other and older. There was a scene early on where she looked like she was twenty-five, not twelve or thirteen.

I was more scared of Oskar than I was of Eli.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 15, 2009 6:02:48 pm PST #9954 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I wouldn't go quite that far (If Oskar dropped on me from a balcony I could easily break him if the fall didn't)), but he was was so disconnected from events going on around him and flat of affect, I had an easier time connecting to and sympathizing with Eli.


Steph L. - Feb 15, 2009 6:28:45 pm PST #9955 of 10000
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

We saw Coraline today, which was excellent. Although I was pulled out of the movie several times because I kept thinking, "THIS is ALL stop-motion??? Holy shit!!!"

So it would have been better for my obsessive brain had I not known that before we went.

Also, I will be avoiding buttons for a while now, thankyouverymuch.


§ ita § - Feb 15, 2009 6:33:15 pm PST #9956 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Stealing a link from Matt: Neil Gaiman on Koumpounophobia.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 15, 2009 6:41:31 pm PST #9957 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I recently read posters on a comics board painting Neil with the same pretentious full-of-himself brush as Grant Morrison or Mark Millar, and then my vision went red. It is a fortunate thing that I can't actually reach through the internet and out of people's monitors to choke them.


DavidS - Feb 15, 2009 6:43:11 pm PST #9958 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Emmett and I saw Coraline today also. It was ravishing. Like sj, I disliked the intrusion of Whybe into the climactic moment of the movie. In the book, Coraline sets the trap for the hand with great forethought. She wins because she's a better strategist, not because she had a lucky arriving friend and they hit it with a rock. Pff.

Otherwise: Genius! Emmett clutched my arm for much of the movie as it was quite creepy. I kind of loved that they moved to Ashland, Oregon (with bits of the Shakespeare Festival on view).

Between this and Mirrormask I have to wonder about the family dynamics between Gaimain's daughters and his wife.


Atropa - Feb 15, 2009 10:13:25 pm PST #9959 of 10000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Also, I will be avoiding buttons for a while now, thankyouverymuch.

I've been talking to a couple of friends who claim they've figured out a way to build button-eye prosthetics for me. Why yes, I want to have button eyes for Halloween.


Aims - Feb 16, 2009 3:42:30 am PST #9960 of 10000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Jilli - when you find out would you mind terribly passing the info onto me? Em really wants to go as Coraline for Halloween. Joe and I want to go as Other Mother and Father.


Ash - Feb 16, 2009 4:23:42 am PST #9961 of 10000

he was was so disconnected from events going on around him and flat of affect, I had an easier time connecting to and sympathizing with Eli.

"flat of affect" describes how he came across to me... I felt sympathy for Eli because she's just hungry, while Oskar seemed more amoral and cut off from humanity. Neither actor ever pulled me out of the story. They were both amazing.

The people I saw this with were talking about how they felt that Hakan was messing up gathering blood because he'd been doing this for years and was just getting weary of it and careless. It makes sense that Eli would need someone more methodical if she loses control at the scent of blood.


le nubian - Feb 16, 2009 4:31:55 am PST #9962 of 10000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Ash & others,

I connected to Oskar because of the bullying. So I was just about in his court from moment one. I felt really sorry for him the entire time. I was really horrified at the pool scene. I know kids are mean to each other, but damn.