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Steph L. - Jan 26, 2009 11:15:00 am PST #9696 of 10000
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

Huh, I always assumed Russia, too.


Kathy A - Jan 26, 2009 11:21:57 am PST #9697 of 10000
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Don't forget that, as the writer of that recap points out, Goldman first wrote TPB in 1973, so I guessed the Vietnam connection was primary in his mind. It does apply nicely to just about every invasion of Asia as well, though.


Sean K - Jan 26, 2009 11:32:35 am PST #9698 of 10000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

So, we're all correct. And yeah, considering when the book was written and who directed the movie, I now think it was referencing both.


beekaytee - Jan 26, 2009 11:41:07 am PST #9699 of 10000
Compassionately intolerant

I thought that was kind of a truism - that a land war in Asia never goes well, not for U.S., France, Russia, etc. So yes, Vietnam, but more like the history of Western intervention in Asia since 1700 or something.

This was my thinking.

Side note: Goldman's Adventures in the Screen Trade is one of my favorite books ever. Among many things, he gave me the phrase 'that was a movie moment' to describe inconceivable (see what I did there?) coincidences.


Jessica - Jan 26, 2009 11:50:13 am PST #9700 of 10000
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Is that the one with the rant about how people in movies never look in their wallet before pulling out money to pay taxis? And all of his examples of how that would go down in real life are about Mel Gibson? "This is a dollar, you Australian asshole!"


Polter-Cow - Jan 26, 2009 11:50:56 am PST #9701 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

who directed the movie

What's Rob Reiner's Vietnam connection?


juliana - Jan 26, 2009 12:06:56 pm PST #9702 of 10000
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Both Rob & his mom Estelle were active in protests against that war, IIRC.


megan walker - Jan 26, 2009 12:38:54 pm PST #9703 of 10000
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I still like my Risk theory the best.


Volans - Jan 26, 2009 12:41:15 pm PST #9704 of 10000
move out and draw fire

I thought it was a reference to the game Risk. Actually it doesn't matter tho, because anachronistic references are part and parcel of TPB.

Late in responding, but I have seen Lemora. Had the DVD for awhile too, in our quest to own every vampire film ever made. Jilli would like the Gibson Girl vampires; otherwise not much worthy there.

On a related note, I am this close to buying Jinx's tshirt that says "and then Buffy staked Edward. The End."


beekaytee - Jan 26, 2009 1:00:20 pm PST #9705 of 10000
Compassionately intolerant

Goldman's book

Nope, this one is about how The Great Waldo Pepper nearly killed Robert Redford's career, stuff about all his screenplays prior to print (1983), ranty stuff about TPTB (stars, execs, producers, etc) a great exercise in screenwriting and a whole lot of snark.